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How does one look at photos that have already been posted?
 
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... Shu thinks the first post was made by Morgan.
Morgan said she made the first post, but Sarah said Amanda made the first post. They're both right. My screen says that Amanda (AKA Morgan, AKA Sarah) first posted July 13, 2002 2:00 PM, while Astral (AKA Shufitz) first posted July 13, 2002 2:57 PM. Of course, I'm assuming those times are in the same time zone.

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How does one look at photos that have already been posted?

The board treats them similarly to normal discussion topics. I think all photo galleries have been posted in the Community forum, so if you look back you'll see them. There haven't been any new ones for a few months so you'll have to look back a way. You'll be able to tell them from a normal topic because they have a little camera icon to the left of the title.

Here's a search that should show all the albums (note that there are four pages):
http://wordcraft.infopop.cc/eve/forums?a=search&reqWords...Type=0&search=Search


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Thanks, Tinman, for that bit of history. Yes, Morgan and Shu had a few different names when we started wordcraft, though Asa and I did not. After we got more registrants, they both settled with their favorite of their names.
 
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Of course, I'm assuming those times are in the same time zone.

That makes no difference. The board shows the time for your zone provided you've set it properly in your preferences. If you haven't, it will show the server's time (in Seattle, I think). In either case, Amanda/Morgan posted 57 minutes before Shu.


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How does one look at photos that have already been posted?

The board treats them similarly to normal discussion topics. I think all photo galleries have been posted in the Community forum, so if you look back you'll see them. There haven't been any new ones for a few months so you'll have to look back a way. You'll be able to tell them from a normal topic because they have a little camera icon to the left of the title.

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Thanks, Arnie. I was actually looking to see whether Kalleh or Shu had posted any photos from our recent get-together in Indianapolis, but I didn't see any.
 
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Any newbies on the board who haven't sent us your birthdays, please do!

Yesterday was my daughter's and assistant's birthdays, and I thought I'd share the limericks I wrote. I really should have written a DD for Catherine because of her name.

Happy birthday to sweet daughter Catherine,
Who's a scholar in law or in math or in
English and lit.,
And I really hope it
Is a bubbly fun day in your bath or in...
[...partying with friends!]

My life will not ever be barren
Because my assistant is Carin!
She smiles every mile
While serving in style.
That Carin is really a rare one!

I am ready for some more birthdays! Cool
 
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SEPTEMBER BIRTHDAYS

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Dianthus September sixth
Sep. 13: WinterBranch


HAPPY Happy happy BIRTHDAY to YOU
 
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Sep. 13: WinterBranch


HAPPY Happy happy BIRTHDAY to YOU


Thank you - I had a wonderful day Smile.
 
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Happy Birthday, though belated, Di! Smile

I sure miss Winterbranch. I wonder where she is these days.
 
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Oops! Sorry I missed it Di! Happy birthday anyway. Big Grin



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Thanks Kalleh and Arnie Smile. I had a wonderful day and I also got a nice sum of money from various friends and relatives - which will go towards my visit to my son and daughter in law in Paris at the end of this month Smile.
 
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Happy Birthday, Di!

Ooh, Paris - how I love Paris... I used to live there, and I'm tempted to go back one day. Room for a little stowaway in your bag? Big Grin
 
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Thanks Smile

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Ooh, Paris - how I love Paris... I used to live there, and I'm tempted to go back one day.


J'aime Paris au printemps.
J'aime Paris en automne.
J'aime Paris en hiver quand il bruine.
J'aime Paris en été quand il grésille.
J'aime Paris chaque moment.
Chaque moment de l'année.
J'aime Paris.
Pourquoi j'aime Paris?
Parce que mon amour est ici.

(Translation courtesy of my rusty French, with a bit of assistance from AltaVista BabelFish).

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If you're not too big - I shall have a fairly small bag Smile. Because I can't drive and am totally reliant on public transport to get around, I always travel very light. I'm not one of those people who think they need to take five suitcases full of stuff for a weekend away. I do take a spare empty bag with me though, because I always return with more than I went with Smile.
 
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Oh - I guess I'm not the only one who wasn't paying attention! Very Merry Birthday wishes, Dianth!


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Lady Di! Happy, happy Birthday... have a good trip to Gay Paree to see your son and family... Will you take the cool underground train to France? Smile
 
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Wow, Paris! I've never been there, if you can believe it. Eek
 
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Happy belated birthday, Di! Smile
 
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Oh - I guess I'm not the only one who wasn't paying attention! Very Merry Birthday wishes, Dianth!


Thanks Smile.
 
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Wow, Paris! I've never been there, if you can believe it. Eek


I've been once before - back in the mid 80s. My ex worked for a firm which had a very lively social club. Members (which was most of the workforce) paid a few pounds into it every week and two or three times a year we had a coach (bus) trip to somewhere on the Continent for a long weekend. One of these trips was to Paris. It was a swelteringly hot day and we all piled onto a bateau mouche and sailed down the Seine Smile.
 
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Thanks Smile.
 
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Lady Di! Happy, happy Birthday... have a good trip to Gay Paree to see your son and family... Will you take the cool underground train to France? Smile


No. I compared fares for various methods of travel and decided that P & O Ferries would be cheapest, so I'm sailing overnight from Portsmouth (at the bottom right of that map).

I could have gone by Eurostar. It would have been more straightforward. I live in Winchester (in the centre of that map) and it takes just under an hour to get to London on the train (which goes straight into Waterloo where the Eurostar is based). Unfortunately, the train fare to London costs more than what I'm paying for my return ferry fare all the way to France - and that's before I shell out for the Eurostar fare on top of it Frown!

So I'm going to Le Havre on 22nd September and then taking the train to Paris via Rouen, returning on the overnight sailing on 26th.
 
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Unfortunately, the train fare to London costs more than what I'm paying for my return ferry fare all the way to France - and that's before I shell out for the Eurostar fare on top of it

That could be true but it's always worth checking to see what discount offers there are. The no-frills airlines are great at slagging off the railways by saying how high their fares are compared with the bargains that their particular no-frills airline offers. What they fail to say is that they always compare their cheapest fare with the railways' most expensive. It's a PR battle that the railways always seem to lose.

But some of the special deals you can get on trains are excellent and are worth checking. For example, although the first class return from Winchester to London is £76 and the ordinary standard is £42.40, it's possible to buy a saver fare (that has some, but not many, retrictions) for only £29.30. The difficulty is that it's not always easy to find out about these deals, the more so since most travel agents no longer do rail business. If you can get to grips with it (and that's not easy) the National Rail website gives most of the information http://www.nationalrail.co.uk

Eurostar, too, have a range of special deals although, to be fair, so do the ferry companies since they are now struggling for business since the tunnel was opened and since duty-free was abolished.


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That could be true but it's always worth checking to see what discount offers there are. The no-frills airlines are great at slagging off the railways by saying how high their fares are compared with the bargains that their particular no-frills airline offers. What they fail to say is that they always compare their cheapest fare with the railways' most expensive. It's a PR battle that the railways always seem to lose.


I checked the price of flights from Southampton Airport (the nearest to me) to Paris and the cheapest was £110 (not including airport taxes and flight insurance) Frown.

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But some of the special deals you can get on trains are excellent and are worth checking. For example, although the first class return from Winchester to London is £76 and the ordinary standard is £42.40, it's possible to buy a saver fare (that has some, but not many, retrictions) for only £29.30. The difficulty is that it's not always easy to find out about these deals, the more so since most travel agents no longer do rail business. If you can get to grips with it (and that's not easy) the National Rail website gives most of the information http://www.nationalrail.co.uk


You're right, it's not easy Frown. I went to the information office in my local railway station in the end, but I found that £29.30 fare and that seemed to be the cheapest.

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Eurostar, too, have a range of special deals although, to be fair, so do the ferry companies since they are now struggling for business since the tunnel was opened and since duty-free was abolished.


The ferry was by far the cheapest option. To break down my journey:

Return train fare from Winchester to Portsmouth: £15.60

Return fare from Portsmouth to Le Havre on P & O ferry (including "reclining seat" and breakfast each way): £34.72

Return train fare from Le Havre to Paris: £36.50

Total: £86.82 (plus taxi fares from the two ferry terminals to the railway stations).
 
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One of the more disgraceful things that the present Government has done is to impose swinging taxes on airlines (and thus on passengers) doubtless on the spurious Socialist premise that "only wealthy people fly". In spite of the fact that the UK travel and transport industries are highly efficient, they are soaked more and more by taxes which are then used to prop up grossly inefficient industries (much of farming being an example). Air fares from the UK are vastly inflated by these unfair charges but there's nothing that one can do (except vote in a more sensible Government). PWC have calculated that, on the average ex-UK package holiday, the total tax burden is around 25%. I can't think of any other service industry that bears anything like that level of taxation and very few industries of any sort that even come near. Possibly alcohol, tobacco and petrol, because of the high duties on these products - but that's about all.

So far as insurance is concerned, that's optional but you'd need exactly the same cover for any overseas journey.

An alternative might have been to fly from Shoreham which costs £59.99 plus Airport charges of £9.99 for the one-way rail/air journey through to Paris via Le Havre. Although Shoreham is a little further, parking is free so your travel costs would not need to include that (unlike Southampton). More than the ferry but you won't have to sit up all night in a reclining seat that doesn't. (I know, I've done it).

One thing that is very significant about travel nowadays is that many principals have now stopped paying commission to travel agents which means that agents now have to charge their customers a small fee. Customers want to save money (of course) and try to do things themselves to save the fee which, as this simple example shows, can be very time-consuming and might not even get the best deal. A good travel agent is well worth the fee charged, as many of those who have deserted the retail travel trade for the internet are beginning to discover.


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One of the more disgraceful things that the present Government has done is to impose swinging taxes on airlines (and thus on passengers) doubtless on the spurious Socialist premise that "only wealthy people fly". In spite of the fact that the UK travel and transport industries are highly efficient, they are soaked more and more by taxes which are then used to prop up grossly inefficient industries (much of farming being an example). Air fares from the UK are vastly inflated by these unfair charges but there's nothing that one can do (except vote in a more sensible Government). PWC have calculated that, on the average ex-UK package holiday, the total tax burden is around 25%. I can't think of any other service industry that bears anything like that level of taxation and very few industries of any sort that even come near. Possibly alcohol, tobacco and petrol, because of the high duties on these products - but that's about all.


Flight costs are going up again now because of the fuel increases Frown.

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So far as insurance is concerned, that's optional but you'd need exactly the same cover for any overseas journey.


Yes - and probably one of those EU medical certificates too.

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An alternative might have been to fly from Shoreham which costs £59.99 plus Airport charges of £9.99 for the one-way rail/air journey through to Paris via Le Havre. Although Shoreham is a little further, parking is free so your travel costs would not need to include that (unlike Southampton).


There's one small snag with that idea - I can't drive, which is why I was considering Southampton in the first place because it's only 20 minutes down the line from my local station and the train stops directly outside the airport.

Since I'm travelling alone and don't have a car, I had to bend what remains of my brain cells quite a bit to piece together the various components of my journey because everything seems to be geared up to Family + Car travel. It took me some time to find the information about foot passengers tucked away in an obscure corner of the various ferry operators' brochures. Until I phoned the ferry operators and talked to them, I didn't know I could have breakfast for an extra £5 each way because I hadn't seen that in the brochures.

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More than the ferry but you won't have to sit up all night in a reclining seat that doesn't. (I know, I've done it).


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One thing that is very significant about travel nowadays is that many principals have now stopped paying commission to travel agents which means that agents now have to charge their customers a small fee. Customers want to save money (of course) and try to do things themselves to save the fee which, as this simple example shows, can be very time-consuming and might not even get the best deal. A good travel agent is well worth the fee charged, as many of those who have deserted the retail travel trade for the internet are beginning to discover.


I tried my local travel agents. Some of them only do long haul journeys, others had wonderful cheap flights from places like Manchester, Stansted or Bristol (the train fares to which would have negated any savings on the flights). The alternative packages they offered me were going to cost quite a bit more than I'm paying now because of all the taxes and other add-ons, so I decided to take the P & O and Brittany Ferries brochures home and do it all myself. I'm on Incapacity Benefit, so I need to get as cheap a deal as I can manage.
 
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I see the problem. Mind you, depending on how long you're going for there's a Network awayday return from Winchester to Shoreham at only £22.70 return - a through service taking about an hour - and the airport is just five minutes away by taxi or 15 minutes walk. The cheapest return to Bristol from Winchester is £34 and to Stansted is £47 (although a railcard would get a third off either of these)

Incidentally, it might be worth checking to see whether you're entitled to a rail card. There's a lot of them about - I get a third off all off-peak journeys just because I'm over 60.

Again it's something that the rail companies don't promote as well as they could but you can get information here http://www.railcard.co.uk/

The new EU certificates that replace the old E111 can be obtained (free) from this site https://www.ehic.org.uk/InternetPROD/home.do


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Cat, you aren't the only one with travel woes! Sunflower and I are struggling to find accomodations while travelling by car from her home state to mine with two large dogs. It seems that "dog-friendly" motels/hotels cater only to little dogs, not to the full-sized ones. We may have to buy a tent and just camp out for our 2800 mile journey! And, of course, since fuel prices have escalated twofold here in the US in one year, we'll be broke when we get here! Mad
 
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My dad used to drive with his dog from Wisconsin to Arizona every year, and then back again. He always found motels that took his dog. I will call him to be sure, but I do think he often stayed at places like Motel 6 (or eight)...where they do "leave the light on for you!" They aren't fancy, but they are clean.
 
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Who leaked mine? I've never published it. Please delete that post.
 
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Who leaked mine? I've never published it. Please delete that post.

I have no idea, Asa; it wasn't I. Are you sure, when you were in a different mindset, that you didn't tell us? Otherwise, how would we know?

I will delete it for you, though.
 
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I will delete it for you, though.



So sayeth Kalleh, as if some undeleted remnant of the offending post still existed.

I have deleted it and hereby apologize.

There was no offense intended.

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Thanks, Jerry. I don't know why I'm such a grump about it, but I've never been comfortable advertising my birthdate. Weird, I guess, but I never claimed to be normal!
 
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Silly Asa. YOu know what happens when you don't let your friends know your birthday? We'll have to celebrate every month! So there!

Happy Birthday of October, Asa!


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You'll just have to do what they did in Wonderland and do the UN- birthdays. Wink
 
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As you know by now, Sweetie, 'twas I who gave away the secret of your birth date, almost a year ago! Big Grin
 
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Welllll, considering it was you, I'll let it go THIS time! Wink I've just never felt comfortable with birthday celebrations for some odd reason. Uhh, maybe because I'M odd? Big Grin
 
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Grumpy Asa,

Happy Whatever Birthday... we don't care how old you are, or if you had a good day! We do like your new wife... Smile... and hope you celebrate her birthday!
 
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I guess Asa is even worse than I am with birthdays. While I don't tell people my age, I don't mind if they wish me happy birthday. Wink

Happy whenever, whatever, Asa. Big Grin

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Asa, stop being such a curmudgeon and have a good birthday, dammit. Big Grin

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Welllll, considering it was you, I'll let it go THIS time! I've just never felt comfortable with birthday celebrations for some odd reason. Uhh, maybe because I'M odd?


I'm with you on this, Asa.
 
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Hmmm, it seems to me from this thread that celebrating birthdays may be more important to women than to men. I wonder.
 
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Although I have no problem with people knowing my birthday, or my age, I do have a problem with birthdays in general. Birthdays mean I have to do the shopping thing and there is nothing, in the whole wide world, that I hate more than traipsing around shops and stores! It's not the cash, it's the whole process that really, really winds me up.

(Actually maybe I am lying - I think I dislike football even more)!


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Although I have no problem with people knowing my birthday, or my age, I do have a problem with birthdays in general. Birthdays mean I have to do the shopping thing and there is nothing, in the whole wide world, that I hate more than traipsing around shops and stores! It's not the cash, it's the whole process that really, really winds me up.

(Actually maybe I am lying - I think I dislike football even more)!


I'm with you on both counts there. I hate football and I don't like traipsing round shops in search of presents either.

It isn't that I'm mean (I'm not), or even that I don't have a lot of money (I don't). It's just that I never have a clue what to get for people.

Christmas sends me into a flat spin of sheer panic and I end up not buying anything for anyone Frown.

I've got friends who have a knack of buying just the right thing for the right person (I've also got friends who always look as though they're wearing £million outfits whereas they've bought their clothes in thrift shops for less than £20) but, faced with the sheer multitude of choices and bombarded with all the ersatz heartiness of the average shopping mall at Christmas (which is now getting into full swing - even though we haven't got Halloween out of the way yet), I just want to retreat into my shell, pull the blankets over my head and stay in bed till it's all over Frown.
 
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Birthdays mean I have to do the shopping thing and there is nothing, in the whole wide world, that I hate more than traipsing around shops and stores! It's not the cash, it's the whole process that really, really winds me up.

Well, not many people enjoy "traipsing around shops and stores" when they don't know what to buy. But isn't it fun when you do know something to buy? Remember when you brought Shu and me that special beer, those pewter steins, and the Fuller's bottle opener? Aren't those kinds of gifts fun to pick out? Also, my kids used to make their gifts. For example, they would give us coupons for "free babysitting" or "yard work" or "washing the car." How fun...and it's so cheap.

I think we all like to make people happy with gifts. It's just that the media says we must "shop, shop, shop." Not the case!
 
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Sorry, Kalleh, but I know that studies have shown that women in general enjoy traipsing around in stores without the foggiest notion of what they're shopping for. And in the UK, a study showed that women prefer shopping to sex. Of course, we all know about "studies" and how reliable or unreliable they are. But I know that women in industrial countries and even in developing countries (what used to be called "underdeveloped countries") love to shop. They enjoy the activity, not the goal. As for men, most of them hate it. It's pure torture, and they would much rather go to a shop only when they need something specific. That's when they go into the store, find the item, then purchase it and leave. What do most women do? They "shop" in the same store for an hour, even if they don't want anything specific.
So I believe your premise is incorrect. However, I think both men and women enjoy making someone happy by giving them something. It's just that it's approached in different ways.
 
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We had quite a good thread going on a while ago about this: Help, I'm trapped on the Internet...


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I think the differences in birthday-ness are really more a temperament or a "previous life experience" thing rather than a gender issue. Some folks like it, some folks don't - some folks enjoy being center of attention (yes, I know, that's me!) and others hate it . . . for a variety of reasons. C'est la vie!


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Sorry, Kalleh, but I know that studies have shown that women in general enjoy traipsing around in stores without the foggiest notion of what they're shopping for.

Well, Mark, I wasn't referring to looking for a gift when you don't have the "foggiest notion" what to buy. "Shopping to shop" is different, and yes, many women, including myself, enjoy that. However, no woman whom I have ever shopped with (and I have shopped with many!) enjoys shopping for a gift for someone when you have absolutely no idea what he/she wants or needs. That's why most men and women, in the U.S. anyway, usually register for wedding gifts (and that concept is expanding to birthdays and other occasions). That way you are guaranteed to buy the couple something they want.

The situation, of course, changes when you do have an idea what the person wants or needs. I know what Shu likes and needs, so I may spend lots of time looking around stores for what is perfect. But, I am not "traipsing around stores without the foggiest idea of what to buy." See the difference?
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So I believe your premise is incorrect.

So I believe my premise was correct.

Besides all that, as I've indicated, there are other ways to buy gifts besides "traipsing around stores," such as making gifts, ordering from catalogues or ordering online.

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Shopping. I enjoy shopping. Shop. I like to. Indeed. Wandering through used book stores and on the bum in flea markets. But my favoritest kind of shopping. Of all. Is for victuals. (Sol invictus sed victus solis.) Food and drink. Beverages and comestibles. Yum. Shopping for clothes does. Not bring me, as much. Joy. (In joy enjoyed.) But then my maternal people. Were haberdashers. One and. All.


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