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Recent discussion elsewhere disclosed that the longer threads are becoming more difficult for some of us to handle so, as your benevolent and all-seeing Emperor, I hereby declare the Double Dactyl thread reopened here.
This week's effort: Don't Worry, Ben. You Can Still Be Her Fourth Husband. Higgledy, Piggledy, J. Lo and Anthony Super celebrities (to some extent) Wedded in secret so Documentarians Scrambled to cover this Boring event. (editted to correct spelling error - sorry!) This message has been edited. Last edited by: Chris J. Strolin, |
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Very few words in the English language contain two Q's but one of them, "quinquagenarian," is defined as either someone who is 50 years old or in their fifties. So...
I Coulda Been a Contendah... Higgledy Piggledy O-E-D-I-L-F, Writing a lim'rick can Bring me such bliss! Now I'm an editor, Quinquagenarian. 52 years and they've Led me to this?! Kalleh has said that writing DDs are much easier for her than limericks, something I find astounding. To me, the subject line and that 6th (usually) one-word-six-syllable-DAH-da-da-DAH-da-da word line are killers. As I mentioned before, I am going to try to maintain a one-DD-per-week schedule. This should last at least another half a month since I recently stumbled over two new (for me, anyway) perfect DD names. Anyone else out there still moved to slap together a DD or two? |
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Well...they're not easy. For me the hardest part is the subject line, and some people are very anal about it only being a person's name.
However, I do find them easier than limericks, for some reason. I think it is because they don't deviate from the rules, whereas with limericks you can add a syllable here and there, as long as it doesn't affect the meter. My problem is that my added syllables sometimes ruin the rhythm. Still, I do have trouble coming up with the subject line. Jerry and I had a laugh when I visited him because one of his guests had the perfect DD name, and he didn't even know! |
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Dribbely, Dribbely
Richard D. Hamilton, New to the Pistons, did Give us a treat. Multiathletically, He and his teammates did Dominate play in the Laker's defeat! As CJ would say, Woo Hoo! It couldn't have happened to a nicer team!  [I know that no one here likes basketball, nor are there even many sports fans....but I had to comment about the demise of my favorite-hated team!] I have no idea what Richard Hamilton's middle initial is...and I know that "multiathetically" isn't a word. However, I had fun with this, and it took a whole lot less time than my "adjuvant therapy" limerick, which, let's face it, really isn't much good. |
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Kalleh,
Richard Hamilton's middle initial is "D"... stands for Dribble, his parents knew he'd be a star. I love "multiathletically".... an athlete, multi-gifted. Let's add it to the QED. |
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Quote "...[I know that no one here likes basketball..."
I don't think it's a question of likes or dislikes more one of mutual incomprehension. It seems to me that many Americans are great supporters of their three main sports but it seems, too, that they are unaware that much of the rest of the world knows very little about them. (Remember the Michael Jordan exchanges?) Similarly, although the sports-lovers of Europe are presently consumed with the progress and paraphenalia of the present European football cup, I suspect it has have very little coverage in the USA. Although I support no sport and have little interest in any, I do know that most sports were originally invented in the UK - even those which the USA now claims as its own. I did once read a theory as to why this is but I can't now recall the details. Richard English |
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Firstly, no, you are wrong. The European football cup gets plenty of coverage here.
Secondly, yes, I do remember our Michael Jordan exchanges, though evidently differently from you, Richard. My recollection is that you were the only one here who hadn't heard of him.  I do know that most sports were originally invented in the UK Now, why am I not surprised to hear that?  Richard, one can always tell when I have had a hard day. I always bring up "epicaricacy" again. When you have had a hard day, we usually see one of 2 things: 1) The Brits have invented everything, or 2) All Americans need to write "boss's" for the possessive form of "boss." You must have had one terrible day today because you have posted them both in one day! |
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Quote, "...the only one here who hadn't heard of him..."
If by "here" you mean the USA, then that's possibly true. If yor mean this board, then it's not true. At least one other Brit from our small number (Bob, I believe) had never heard of him. And, so far as the invention of sports is concerned, I am not being chauvinistic here, simply accurate. I haven't checked dates etc., but I think you will find we invented rounders (baseball), football and rugby (American football) and netball (basketball). That's not even to menion such popular US sports as golf (still, amazingly, called golf in the USA) and snooker/billiards (pool). It would be an interesting thread to look at the names and origins of sport, since many of them (golf, cricket, croquet) do not have names that in any way describe the activity. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Richard English, Richard English |
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quote: Nope, I'd heard of him. I could even name his sport though that was about as far as I could go. "No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson. Read all about my travels around the world here. Read even more of my travel writing and poems on my weblog. My new blog - which I hope to keep more up to date than my old one. And don't miss this - my unpublished book, coming a chapter a week |
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quote: OK, baseball evolved from rounders but they're not all that closely related. Rounders, as I understand it, features a pitcher/catcher combination, fielders, bases, and the use of a bat and ball, and that's pretty much it as far as similarities are concerned. Baseball has exploding scoreboards, $5.00 hot dogs, and multi-million dollar salaries. Totally different sport, entirely. And netball! NETBALL??!! Oh, R.E., don't make me come over there to slap you one! It is a widely known and universally acknowledged fact that Basketball (I'll even capitalize it, that's how sure I am!) was invented by Dr. James Naismith in 1892. Although the good doctor himself was Canadian, he was teaching at the time at Springfield College in Massachusetts. Of the 13 rules he set down for the game, I believe 11 or 12 are still used in professional play. Two odd sidenotes: 1. The original ball used was a soccer ball (yes, yes, I know, "football" to you) and the goal was a peach basket. After every score, play had to be halted while someone came out with a step ladder to retrieve the ball. 2. The basketball hall of fame is officially named The Naismith Hall of Fame. Netball, indeed! Are you sure you're not confusing this with volleyball or hockey or something? |
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ROTFLMAO. Netball (or women's basketball) was adapted by the British in 1901 from American game of basketball (for which dates see CJS' previous entry). Actually, everybody knows that the Russians invented cricket, baseball, basketball, football, soccer, croquet, and rugby. Though the British did invent curling, didn't they? or was that the Quebeckers. Oh, my.
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This prompts reply and brings up another subject, but it would take us even farther away from the title of this thread. So I'm starting a new thread on sports origins.
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Sorry, Shu, but I must say something here. However, I promise to end with a DD!
First, Richard, you were the only one not to have heard of Michael Jordan in that thread. While Graham had said, "Who is he again?", he later acknowledged that of course he had been kidding. I was so surprised, Richard, to think you hadn't heard of him that I even sent a PM to arnie asking if he thought that was possible. He replied that he thought it was since you say that you never read anything about sports. That latter comment leads to my next. Richard, you are an authority here on various subjects, including English history, beer, travel, management, etc. However, even you had acknowledged that you didn't know anything about sports because you never read about it. Therefore, it makes it quite logical that you don't know from where the different sports evolved or were invented. Just makes sense. Going back to the original intent of this thread, this DD was inspired by a PM that Jerry sent me several days ago: Arsidy, Farsidy Gluteus Maximus Muscle of backside is Not really crass. Callipygosity, beautiful buttocks, a Compliment...better than, "You're such an ass!" This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, |
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Quote "...Therefore, it makes it quite logical that you don't know from where the different sports evolved or were invented. Just makes sense..."
This would be quite true were it not for the fact that I did at one time research this and discovered, as I said, that the British invented most sports and the writer of the article actually gave his reasons as to why he felt this was. I didn't bother to check again when I posted I (hence my error about basketball) but it is easy enough to do, thanks now to Google, but originally yhanks to Guinness. According to my own Guinness Book of Answers, the British invented the modern forms of the following sports (references to antiquity are probably misleading since, by that definition, Basketball was invented by the Mayans around 1000 BC): Hockey (field hockey) 1875 Boxing, 1743 Athletics, 1810 Bowls 1300 Fox Hunting, popularised 18th century but extant previously) Football (soccer) 1846 Golf, 1450 Cricket 1550 Yachting 1661 Baseball, 1700 Rowing, 1716 Fives, 1765 Shinty, 1770 (in Scotland, not Ireland) Lawn Tennis, 1793 Raquets, 1798 Rugby, 1823 Croquet, 1856 Squash rackets, 1850 Canoeing, 1865 Water Polo, 1969 Darts (the modern board and scoring invented in Bury, Lancashire) Badminton. 1870 Greyhound racing, 1876 Table tennis, 1879 Weightlifting, 1891 Motorcycle racing, 1897 In more recent times the USA has done rather better, having invented: Ten-pin bowling in 1845 (to avoid a ban on the traditional German 9-pin type) Rodeo, 1847 Tug-of War, 1879 Softball, 1887 Basketball and netball, as we know, in 1891 in Massachusetts, by the Canadian, Dr James Naismith. Volleyball, 1895 Water skiing, 1900 Trampolining, 1936 Synchronised swimming, 1952 (why did they bother?) Board sailing, 1964 Skate boarding, 1966 Of baseball and American Football in the full reference Guinness says of each: American football evolved in American Universities in the second half of the 19th Century as a descendent from soccer and rugby as played in England. Baseball. The nodern rules were introduced in New Jersey in 1846, although a game of the same name had been played in England prior to 1700. Now, having strayed rather too far from my real areas of interest, I think I'd better try another Limerick! Richard English |
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Well, this is probably a pointless argument, but I think Shu was right in pointing out the difference between a sport being invented and evolving. If you think the sport is invented, then I suppose you have to go back to when the first culture invented the ball. Most sports would follow from there then.
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Quote "...then I suppose you have to go back to when the first culture invented the ball. Most sports would follow from there then..."
I agree 100%. As I said, "references to antiquity are probably misleading since, by that definition, Basketball was invented by the Mayans around 1000 BC". Just about every sport has some kind of ancient antecedent, even baseball (played in Mexico around 10BC). And it's not just ball games. Modern wrestling was codified in France in 1860, but depictions appear on temple walls in Iraq dated 2700 BC. Coursing was established as a sport in England in 1067 but depictions appear in Egypt going back to 3000 BC. Boxing's first ring rules were set out in England in 1743 but the sport was known in Greece in 1520 BC. My commentary was to do with modern variations and modern rules. Richard English |
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Back to double dactyls...
Here's One to Confuse the New People Higgledy Piggledy Ellen DeGeneres Emmy in hand, may her Fortunes increase. Though she's a hit with most Heterosexuals, All things considered she's No Pee Wee Reese! Who is a writer's most important audience? Himself or herself, of course! If we took a poll and this DD was judged to be a loser by a score of 50 to 1, I would still consider it a success because I would be that lone favorable vote. I'm sorry but sometimes I just crack myself up. This is an "in" joke, yes, but everyone is invited in on the joke. For some reason, ever since this site underwent a facelift a couple of months ago, I have been unable to post a link to other sections of this site or to other websites. I'll PM Arnie on this and a few other questions today. In the meantime, anyone wishing to be filled in regarding the background of this piece, I refer you to the thread titled "A Quiz I'm Betting Arnie, Hab, or Shufitz WON'T Be Able to Get" in the Wordplay forum. It will be near the top of the list of titles. The thread involves a challenge which is still open even though Ellen is the first new answer anyone's come up with for some time. Any input from our new posters? Or better yet, how about trying your hands at some double dactyls? They're murder and, at the same time, extremely enjoyable. Complete rules are spelled out in several places within the "Double Dactyls Again" thread in this forum. You can find a concise list in my Feb 27, 2003 post of that thread. I've googled "Double Dactyls" and surfed the web quite a bit and have to say that I firmly believe that our Wordcraft DDs stand up with the best of them. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Chris J. Strolin, |
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Ode to OEDILF
Limery, Limery Wordcrafter Christopher's Writing his lim'ricks for THE OED. Will he accomplish this Impossibility? Stick around wordcrafters; You will all see! Note to wordcrafters: Even though CJ will be leaving us soon with his OEDILF project, I will keep you updated as to its progress.  |
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Who says I'm leaving??
It's not as if I'm incapable of devoting time to more than one site at roughly the same time. Maybe this is Kalleh's subconscious way of saying that she looks forward to my departure. (BooHoo!) |
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Maybe this is Kalleh's subconscious way of saying that she looks forward to my departure. (BooHoo!)
Of course not...or I wouldn't have written you an "Ode!" However, I doubt you'll have much time for us when your project really starts heating up. What is completely amazing to me is that you now have 2 pages (increasing daily) on Google about OEDILF, when just a few months ago there were none. You are becoming a real celebrity...and too good for us!  |
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Not at all. And don't think I'll forget you in my Pulitzer acceptance speech.
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Snickety Snarkety
Michael Moore's Fahrenheit goes forth to theatres dressed up for war: "Bring it on boys; call me anti-American, then watch my customers come back for Moore." From earlier this month: Starbalah Schmarbalah Old Rabbi Phillip Berg found that the brightest stars beamed rays of light into the realms of the celebritocracy -- now the Madonna can re-clothe in white. |
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Virge, it is nice to see you doing DDs, too!
Inspired by CJ... Higgledy Piggledy Joseph D. Pulitzer, Recognized Publisher, Really quite wise. Logomaniacally, Wrote for the newspapers, Though he's best known for the Pulitzer Prize. |
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