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May 27, 2006, 12:36
Seanahan
Sally garden.
This term appears to be Irish in origin, but googling doesn't seem to be helpful, as there are numerous song lyrics with this term, as well as numerous women named Sally who have gardnens.

Any help?
May 27, 2006, 16:07
Dianthus
This site reckons it might be derived from the willows (Salix) which grew in the gardens.
May 27, 2006, 21:43
Seanahan
I'd uncovered the willow reference, but couldn't quite make it fit with the usage I saw in google. That site has a pretty good explanation. It mentions a poem by Yeats, as well as the text of a song about "Sally's garden", both excellent pieces.
June 03, 2006, 11:32
arnie
No relation, I suppose, to a sally port?


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June 04, 2006, 19:29
shufitz
Interesting, arnie. Your site says, "The primary modern meaning for Sally port ... is a small controlled space with two doors. Essentially, one must enter the space and close the first door before opening the second to proceed."

But there's no such meaning given in the usual online dictionaries. No reference to a pair of doors. For instance, MW says "a gate or passage in a fortified place for use by troops making a sortie", and AHD is much the same.

Sean, on your original question I haven't a clue. In what context did you find the term?
June 12, 2006, 15:41
Duncan Howell
Maybe this relates to the original question....There's a common plant (I hesitate to call it a weed since, as kids, we used to eat it)that grows wild by the roadsides and in untended gardens, and we always called it "sallies". I'm not sure, but maybe it's also known as Lamb's Quarters.
March 19, 2007, 05:44
cc
from saileach.Irish for willow, related to lat. salix
March 19, 2007, 08:30
zmježd
saileach

According to this: sally, variant of sallow, from Proto-Germanic *salho-z, cf. Latin salix 'willow'. The form saileach is the collective of sail. Occurs in placenames, like Sallymount.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 19, 2007, 16:00
neveu
quote:
cf. Latin salix 'willow'.

From which we get salicylic acid, a topical acne medication, and acetyl salicylic acid, the active ingredient in aspirin.
March 19, 2007, 18:46
Kalleh
Welcome, cc, to wordcraft. Do you live in Ireland?