May 27, 2006, 12:36
SeanahanSally garden.
This term appears to be Irish in origin, but googling doesn't seem to be helpful, as there are numerous song lyrics with this term, as well as numerous women named Sally who have gardnens.
Any help?
May 27, 2006, 16:07
Dianthus This site reckons it might be derived from the willows (Salix) which grew in the gardens.
May 27, 2006, 21:43
SeanahanI'd uncovered the willow reference, but couldn't quite make it fit with the usage I saw in google. That site has a pretty good explanation. It mentions a poem by Yeats, as well as the text of a song about "Sally's garden", both excellent pieces.
June 03, 2006, 11:32
arnieNo relation, I suppose, to a
sally port?
June 04, 2006, 19:29
shufitzInteresting, arnie. Your site says, "The primary modern meaning for Sally port ... is a small controlled space with two doors. Essentially, one must enter the space and close the first door before opening the second to proceed."
But there's no such meaning given in the usual online dictionaries. No reference to a pair of doors. For instance,
MW says "a gate or passage in a fortified place for use by troops making a sortie", and
AHD is much the same.
Sean, on your original question I haven't a clue. In what context did you find the term?
June 12, 2006, 15:41
Duncan HowellMaybe this relates to the original question....There's a common plant (I hesitate to call it a weed since, as kids, we used to eat it)that grows wild by the roadsides and in untended gardens, and we always called it "sallies". I'm not sure, but maybe it's also known as Lamb's Quarters.
from saileach.Irish for willow, related to lat. salix
March 19, 2007, 08:30
zmježd saileachAccording to
this:
sally, variant of
sallow, from Proto-Germanic *
salho-z, cf. Latin
salix 'willow'. The form
saileach is the collective of
sail. Occurs in placenames, like Sallymount.
March 19, 2007, 16:00
neveuquote:
cf. Latin salix 'willow'.
From which we get salicylic acid, a topical acne medication, and acetyl salicylic acid, the active ingredient in aspirin.
March 19, 2007, 18:46
KallehWelcome, cc, to wordcraft. Do you live in Ireland?