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its supposed to refer to someone who roots for the underdog.

kinda like captain nemo i guess. i read a comic book adaptation that described him as such.

but for the life of me i cannot remember what that words is.

i think it starts with a 'mis' ends with 'phist'(?)

im not too sure about the last part.

anyway, im surre its not misanthropist, just another word with 'mis' or something in it.

all i know is, its used to define a personality who roots for the underdog or the "loser" side.

thanks you very much for any help. =)
 
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Those of us in our earliest boyhood gave our hearts to Conan Doyle, and have had from him so many hours of good refreshment, find our affection unshakable. What other man led a fuller and heartier and more masculine life? Doctor, whaler, athlete, writer, speculator, dramatist, historian, war correspondent, spiritualist, he was always the infracaninophile -- the helper of the underdog. Big in every way, his virtues had always something of the fresh vigor of the amateur, keen, open-minded, flexible, imaginative. If, as Doyle utterly believed, the spirits of the dead persist and can communicate, there is none that could have more wholesome news to impart to us than that brave and energetic lover of life. - Christopher Morley, from the preface to The Complete Sherlock Holmes
 
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wow, infracaninophile.

i was way way way off. lol

thank you so much tsuwm. especially for the speedy response. =)

now, i can sleep peacefully.
 
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I believe Morley, in the passage tsuwm quotes, was the original coiner of this word, in 1930.

(To which some of the learned responded that it should have been infracanophile.)
 
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Beneath-doggish-lover. Doesn't quite sound right to me. (An example of a sports term making it into the mainstream via late 19th century socialist writings.) If you're going to coin words and not upset the pedants, you ought to not mix Latin infra and caninus with Greek φιλη (philē). I don't think that underdogs in this case are those who are about to lose a contest ("he's always rooting for the underdog") but disadvantaged (economically) persons.


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Originally posted by zg1685:
kinda like captain nemo i guess. i read a comic book adaptation that described him as such.


Are you referring to The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? I don't know what the word would be, if not misanthropist. I'm sure that "infracanophile" is not in the comic.
 
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There's also a manga about a Captain Nemo who is supposed to be the son of the Jules Verne character; part of it is at http://www.gomanga.com/webmanga/index.php?series=nemo&page=1

Wikipedia says about him:
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He is calm and collected, chivalrious [sic], fearless. Though he does have a bit of a weakness when it comes to the opposite sex, due to the fact he's had very little exposure to them at sea. Like his father before him, he has sworn never to set foot on land until every man is free from tyranny.
That's not really a description of a misanthrope; the opposite, in fact. Although the term can be applied to those, such as hermits, who voluntarily exile themselves from their fellow humans, it cannot be applied to Nemo (père et fils); their self-exile is not out of loathing.


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I don't know about the other Nemos, but my impression of the Nemo in LXG is that he is misanthropic.
 
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I don't think of Verne's Nemo as a misanthrope, but he is an anti-hero. In the chapter where he sinks the man-of-war which attacks the Nautilus, you see this. He has set himself up as judge and avenger (his wife and children had been casualties of war (originally Polish by the Russians, but as published Indian by the British). He's more like Batman than Superman, a tragically flawed vigilante.


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nah it wasn't LXG, it was some super condensed graphic novel adaptation of 20,000 leagues.

but i have read LXG, really good, too bad about the movie though..

so anyway, yea, what im looking for is more in line with what zmjezd illustrated, as in someone who is partial to the disadvantaged and down-trodden rather than the glorious and magnificent.
 
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someone who is partial to the disadvantaged and down-trodden

Sounds like some sort of commie or pinko to me. Wink


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I am not aware of a good word to describe this. But underdogger is cited in the OED, though some of the quotations suggest use of this word for the victim, i.e. the underdog, rather than for his supporter or rescuer:

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Hence underdogger, one who supports the underdog in a contest; underdoggery.

1938 H. BELLOC in Tablet 1 Jan. 8/1 Anyhow, the difficulty and injustice of under-doggery is softened in all sorts of ways by the virtues of charity and humility. 1969 D. THOMSON Aims of Hist. 68 It was no doubt natural, perhaps inevitable, that the approach of early enthusiasts for economic history should be strongly tinged with under-doggery. 1970 N.Y. Times 17 Aug. 26/4 ‘We under~doggers have to try harder,’ he [sc. Governor Rockefeller] explained to reporters. 1977 Time 3 Oct. 54 After three crushing defeats, Australia's loyal underdoggers were busy recalling all the old familiar whiny excuses. 1978 Times 2 Sept. 7 The angel with the perfect smell, the innocent, the do-gooder, the outsider, the perfect stranger. I was a great underdogger. 1981 London Rev. Bks. 2-15 July 24/3 He bore a grudge for not getting the Nobel prize... Reviews..have made much of O'Hara's under~doggery.
 
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infracaninophile


1990 M. E. Kerr, Gentlehands "Uncle Louie says all Americans are infracaninophiles, and I'm a living example."

1999 Richard Bradford, Red Sky at Morning "I'll bet that some of your best friends are pachakeetos," Jimbob said. "You always were an infracaninophile."

2007 Bruce Olds, The Moments Lost "Ivan's reputation among his West Side folk was that of a soft touch and easy mark, for he temperamentally was disposed to trust people implicitly, was drawn instinctively to championing underdogs and their causes.. was by nature an infracaninophile whose generosity of spirits was nigh pelagic, and was possessed of a mind both as alert and wide-open as his heart was capacious."
 
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Both infracaninophile and underdogger are rather clumsy-sounding words. the former doesn't appear in the OED though doubtless has its own pedigree, the latter has been used with rather different meanings.
If pushed, I should prefer the longer but less equivocal phrase: supporter of the underdog.
 
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