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January 12, 2009, 07:21
wordcrafter
Double-Meaning Words
We've seen the word spat, meaning "young, floating oysters, which attach themselves to oyster shells and artificial beds." Of course, a "spat" can also be a minor dispute, and "spat" is the past tense of "to spit".

This week we'll present some further words which have two or more disparate meanings.

flute1. a familiar musical instrument
2. architecture: a long groove as a decorative motif, as on an architectural column (also, a like groove or furrow, as in cloth or on furniture; common on a quiche pan)
3. a tall narrow wineglassBonus words:
trumpet; saucer; pomponne
(wineglasses) – see quote and illustrations above
January 12, 2009, 07:31
zmježd
... and spat is the jocular singular of spats a kind of pearl-gray gaiter or puttee.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
January 12, 2009, 11:44
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by zmježd:
... and spat is the jocular singular of spats a kind of pearl-gray gaiter or puttee.

Why do you call it jocular? Both M-W and Dictionary.com use it in the singular.

Spats are still used, according to Wikipedia, and the Los Angeles Times (LAT) reports (October 14 2007) "the spat's back."
quote:
Their offerings range from low-cut black leather versions to more daring knee-length crocodile spats. “They are an easy fix,” Pels says. “People love the hunt for something new that they can make their own. They look great over a basic flat or sandals or over skinny jeans.”

But just where did spats come from? Call them the leg warmers of the 18th century. The Holly Hobbie shoe covers started as a functional knee-length accessory called a “spatterdash,” used by women, farmers and soldiers to keep out the mud and cold. In the early 1920s, the length of spats shrank as they evolved into a pricey status symbol and a marker of class among well-to-do men of the time. Spats resurfaced in the 1980s, most notably on Michael Jackson in his video for “Smooth Criminal,” where they drew attention to his moon-walk.

With the menswear trend this season, they are looking right again. Depending on how you wear them, they can be dainty, bondage, gladiator or goth. One thing’s for sure: They will get you noticed. And you should probably be prepared for a joke about a monocle.


Don't you just want to rush out and buy some? Or maybe this is your style. You'd look dashing walking down the street in your spats . And you can get them for your kids, too.
January 12, 2009, 12:29
zmježd
Why do you call it jocular?

Because I've never heard anybody speak about a single spat. (Maybe "I lost one of my spats".) And, I didn't look it up. I just assumed one spat would be like one pant or one scissor. Shouldn't the title be rewritten as back of the spat?


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
January 12, 2009, 14:21
<Proofreader>
"Spats are back."

The question is, Why?

"spat is the jocular singular of spats a kind of pearl-gray gaiter or puttee"

According to my MW, there is no definition for "spats." The only def is the singular "spat." I guess you can only wear one, if you like.
January 13, 2009, 07:16
arnie
The situation is similar for "shoes", "socks", "gloves", and so on. Their definition will appear in the dictionaries as singular but they are most usually referred to in pairs.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 13, 2009, 08:57
wordcrafter
shoal1. an area of shallow water, or a submerged sandbank visible at low water
2. a large number of fish swimming together (related to "a school of fish")

Etymologically, two separate words. The first sense is often used figuratively; see quotes.
January 13, 2009, 09:21
Richard English
Of course, the inimitable Wodehouse had something to say on the subject of spats...http://wodehouse.ru/55.htm


Richard English
January 13, 2009, 11:18
arnie
Very interesting ... The Russian Wodehouse Society. I wonder what the average Russian makes of Bertie Wooster and the inimitable Jeeves?


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 13, 2009, 11:34
Richard English
quote:
I wonder what the average Russian makes of Bertie Wooster and the inimitable Jeeves?

He or she probably thinks that we still live in that glorious timewarp world that was Wodehouse. Were that but true!


Richard English
January 13, 2009, 11:47
BobHale
I don't know if you saw it but when Paul Merton did his recent series on India he also met up with an Indian Wodehouse readers' group.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 13, 2009, 12:09
arnie
That's right Bob, I remember! I'd imagine that a lot of Indians do think we still live like that, especially as the Raj only ended 60-odd years ago.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 13, 2009, 12:25
BobHale
It is a pity that we can't hold a wordcraft convention somewhere like Blandings Castle.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 13, 2009, 13:58
Richard English
Actually that suggestion has much merit, the more so since we don't as yet have a venue for Wordcraft 2009. Hall and Woodhouse do have a pub in Hampshire called The Empress of Blandings and the PGW society in the UK http://www.pgwodehousesociety.org.uk/ have many events.


Richard English
January 14, 2009, 07:17
wordcrafter
shirr
1. to gather (cloth) into decorative rows by parallel stitching
2. to cook (eggs, in their shell or a small dish) by baking until set

Opposites, in the sense that the latter is simplicity, while the former adds ornament to simplicity.
January 15, 2009, 11:47
wordcrafter
gudgeon
1. a certain small freshwater fish (or various similar fishes) often used as bait to catch larger ones
. . .2. slang: one who is easily duped
3.a a pivot or spindle on which something swings or rotates b. the tubular part of a hinge into which a pin (called the pintle) fits (nautical: such a socket for a rudder) c. a pin holding two blocks of stone together¹Thought re senses 1 and 2: Many animals are used as symbols of dupes or duping (a silly goose; a lemming; a cat's-paw; a con-man's pigeon; to follow like sheep; to gull). Shakespeare played on gudgeon's fish/dupe meanings in The Merchant of Venice ("But fish not, with this melancholy bait, / For this fool gudgeon, this opinion.").

But it gets interesting when you ask what was the Shakespearean-era connection between the fish and foolishness. In some metaphors the gudgeon is the fool doing the swallowing, who will "swallow anything". In others, the gudgeon is bait being swallowed, and the fool is the one who takes the bait and gets caught ("hook, line and sinker"). Contrast the former metaphor in Barry, Ram-Alley ("Has the gudgeon bit?" "He has been nibbling."), with the latter in Butler, Hudibras ("To swallow gudgeons 'ere they're catched, / And count their chickens 'ere they're hatched.")


¹Question: In sense 3, can gudgeon sometimes mean a pin fitting into a socket, and sometimes mean the socket?. Does the word trunnion also have the same pair of pin/socket meanings? I don't know. Can any reader shed light?

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January 16, 2009, 11:12
wordcrafter
Today's word can be a commendation or condemnation, or a potation!

smoothie
1.a. a person with polished manners, who acts with deftness, assurance, and easy competence
. .b. a person with an artfully suave, ingratiating manner; esp., a man with that manner toward women
2. a creamy beverage made of fruit blended with juice, milk, or yogurt (implies low-calorie?)

The last sense, though still not in some major dictionaries, is by far the most common.
January 18, 2009, 09:22
wordcrafter
Another potation today. But the other meaning, though much less common, strikes me as far more interesting, and a vivid metaphor.

sundowner
1. chiefly British: a drink taken at sundown
2. Australian: a vagrant; a trampThe dictionaries have not yet listed this one:
sundowner's syndrome – agitation, pacing, insomnia and confusion, specifically at night. Associated with Stage 2 Alzheimer's disease.
January 18, 2009, 09:23
wordcrafter
pallet – a portable platform on which goods can be moved, stacked, or stored, especially with the aid of a forklift
pallet – a straw bed or mattress; an inferior bed or sleeping place

Etymologically, these are two separate words, yet are not the meanings somewhat similar? The first comes from a root meaning ""a flat tool" (and it has other, related senses); the second from a root meaning "straw".
January 18, 2009, 10:27
neveu
I first heard the second sense of pallet from this Mississippi John Hurt classic.
January 19, 2009, 06:34
wordcrafter
quote:
Originally posted by neveu:
I first heard the second sense of pallet from this Mississippi John Hurt classic.
Me too, neveu. But I never thought of checking utube. Thank you for a wonderful memory.
January 20, 2009, 15:04
shufitz
Enjoy this about a double meaning. Smile