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September 21, 2009, 09:05
wordcrafter
Words that Sound Dirty, but Aren't
I am stunned to realize that it's been years since we've presented a theme of Words that Sound Dirty, but Aren't. It's time to get our minds back in the gutter.

titular – (the adjective form of "title"): of or relating to a title (especially: existing in name only; nominal: the titular head of the family)
September 22, 2009, 07:33
wordcrafter
flocculent – wool-like, esp.: of a loosely clumped texture, like tufts of wool; more commonly, something that causes such clumping

Our first quote, from an article titled The great hair battle, notes the delicious irony that "every silver lining has a cloud".
September 23, 2009, 12:07
wordcrafter
castrametation – the art or science of laying out a camp

So says the dictionary, which might lead you to think that the word could be apply to your next camping trip. But in my judgment, the word refers to a military camp or fort.Some related terms and distinctions:
September 23, 2009, 13:24
Robert Arvanitis
Well, this one is borderline.

The Latin stem serves for "castle." the "*chester" ending of certain British cities, and of course "castrate."

See this from etymoline.com:

castle
late O.E. castel, from O.N.Fr. castel, from L. castellum "fortified village," dim. of castrum "fort;" cognate with O.Ir. cather, Welsh caer "town" (and perhaps related to castrare "cut off"). This word had come to O.E. as ceaster and formed the -caster and -chester in place names.


RJA
September 24, 2009, 09:25
wordcrafter
Today's word is sometimes spelled shist, which increases its "seems dirty" factor. The adjective form is shistose or schistose.

schist – a coarse-grained rock, metamorphic, which consists of (and can be split into) layers of different minerals
[Greek skhistos split]
September 25, 2009, 07:39
wordcrafter
I'm presenting an ordinary garden-variety word today, not a fancy flowery one. But the illustrative story is irresistible.

horticulture – the study or activity of growing garden plants
[from Latin hortus garden]

It's reputed that when "horticulture" was presented to Dorothy Parker as her challenge in a game of Can-You-Give-Me-A-Sentence?, she immediately responded with this bon mot:Motto for apprentice seamstresses: As ye sew, so shall ye rip.
September 26, 2009, 15:08
wordcrafter
P.S.:
– re yesterday's word: If you practice horticulture, are you horticultivating?
– re yesterday's Parker quote: Is Parker implying that horticulture is an oxymoron?

Let us move on. We've seen that horticulture is the culture (or cultivating) of gardens, not of (w)hor(e)s. One that basis, what is a horologist devoted to: to gardens, or to (w)hor(e)s?

Neither. It's still another "hoary" root.

horologist – a clockmaker; a person who makes or repairs clocks or watches
[from Greek hora time, hour. horology – the science, study, or art of measuring time]

Watchmaking imagery has long been part of "Does God exist?" arguments and the evolutionist-vs-creationist debate. The Blind Watchmaker was a recent popular book by evolutionist Richard Dawkins. And Dawkins' title echoes a memorable watchmaker-analogy, in a prominent 1802 statement of the opposing "intelligent design" view. "The watch must have had a maker," that work had argued, and its opening words are quoted (inexactly) within the quotation below.

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September 27, 2009, 02:27
Richard English
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Watchmaking imagery has long been part of "Does God exist?" arguments and the evolutionist-vs-creationist debate.

Is that still a hot topic in the USA? The only people I have ever met in the UK who still deny the theory of evolution are religious extremist such as the Jehovah's Witnesses and their ilk.


Richard English
September 27, 2009, 05:47
<Proofreader>
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Is that still a hot topic in the USA?

Check out this site. He's a former TV star / atheist who converted to Christianity and is a devout Creationist. He's in the news because, for Darwin's 150th anniversary, he intends to pass out Origin f Species to college students. However, his is a special edition with a fifty=page introduction which supposedly refutes evolution and ascribes its existence to the worst ideas of Hitler and Stalin.
September 27, 2009, 05:50
zmježd
Is that still a hot topic in the USA?

Yes, it's not just a debate but includes litigation, too. The neo-creationist intelligent design movement has been wasting public resources trying to get their flavor of fundamentalist religion (e.g., evangelical Christianity, Roman Catholicism) to be taught in science classes. I'm not sure what the demographics of it are.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
September 27, 2009, 07:44
<Proofreader>
PBS recently aired a documentary about the battle a small mid-western town went through to keep Creationist textbooks out of their classrooms. Thr group pushing the new books said they had nothing to do with Creationism but were instead based on Intelligent Design (as if that was different).

When the case went to court, one piece of evidence that blew their claim out of the water was a draft of the book in question. In the original draft the word "creationism" was in place throughout. But the next draft had the word replaced by "Intelligent Design." The gambit might have worked except the change was made on a computer which didn't 'find and replace' correctly, so each instance said something like "CreaIntelligent Designtionism."
September 27, 2009, 08:13
Richard English
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Check out this site. He's a former TV star / atheist who converted to Christianity and is a devout Creationist.

I didn't get as far as reading his beliefs. Any website that tries to force me to listen to its creator's choice of music provokes one of two responses from me - "click to return to previous page" - or "click to close".

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However, his is a special edition with a fifty=page introduction which supposedly refutes evolution and ascribes its existence to the worst ideas of Hitler and Stalin.

Do you know, I had always believed that Stalin and Hitler lived after Darwin...


Richard English
September 27, 2009, 08:16
Richard English
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In the original draft the word "creationism" was in place throughout. But the next draft had the word replaced by "Intelligent Design." The gambit might have worked except the change was made on a computer which didn't 'find and replace' correctly, so each instance said something like "CreaIntelligent Designtionism."

That sounds to me like very unintelligent design.


Richard English
September 27, 2009, 08:25
Richard English
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The neo-creationist intelligent design movement has been wasting public resources trying to get their flavor of fundamentalist religion (e.g., evangelical Christianity, Roman Catholicism) to be taught in science classes.

Interesting that this link leads to one of the longest Wikipedia articles I have ever seen.

Sixteen pages discussing, in great detail, a concept that is a load of complete cobblers.


Richard English
September 27, 2009, 09:35
<Proofreader>
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I had always believed that Stalin and Hitler lived after Darwin...

Guess I didn't word that correctly. He claims they were unduly influenced by Darwin and misused his conclusions.

Is that clearer?
September 27, 2009, 09:49
Richard English
I did have another go and tried to find where this character had said what you ascribe to him, but I couldn't find it. And whenever I went to the home page I got that foul music of his - at full volume even though I had muted it - and so just gave up. What kind of idiot forces people to listen to his choice of music when what he really wants is for people to look at his website?

Ah yes, an idiot who believes in the dubious and quite unproven writings of a few ignorant writers of two-thousand years ago.


Richard English
September 27, 2009, 11:33
<Proofreader>
I don't think his site goes into the controversial statements. It seems more concerned with selling his videos and books. There are other sites that are more informational if you google his name.
September 27, 2009, 11:52
zmježd
More info about Mr Cameron and his beliefs can be gleaned by visiting Wikipedia and reading the article on him (link).


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
September 27, 2009, 13:06
wordcrafter
petcock – a small valve or faucet used to drain or reduce pressure, as from a boiler

The well-equipped lady, Betty Crocker advises, keeps a petcock in the kitchen.
September 27, 2009, 14:11
<Proofreader>
Petcock? What about a peacock?
September 27, 2009, 14:25
Richard English
I took a look at the Wikipedia article and saw this item ".... In this picture, Cameron cites the lack of a "crocoduck" as evidence against evolution...."

I have heard this nonsense before from the likes of the Jehovah's Witnesses, who also seem to believe that the theory of evolution suggests that everything will, sooner or later, evolve. Which of course it doesn't.

Mr Cameron claims that, because he's never seen a crocoduck, evolution is a falsehood. Well, he's never seen a god either, so presumably that is also proof that a deity is a falsehood.


Richard English
September 28, 2009, 06:30
goofy
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
PBS recently aired a documentary about the battle a small mid-western town went through to keep Creationist textbooks out of their classrooms. Thr group pushing the new books said they had nothing to do with Creationism but were instead based on Intelligent Design (as if that was different).

When the case went to court, one piece of evidence that blew their claim out of the water was a draft of the book in question. In the original draft the word "creationism" was in place throughout. But the next draft had the word replaced by "Intelligent Design." The gambit might have worked except the change was made on a computer which didn't 'find and replace' correctly, so each instance said something like "CreaIntelligent Designtionism."


They incorrectly replaced "creationists" with "design proponents" and got "cdesign proponentsists".

At the trial, ID creationist Michael Behe admitted that if ID was a scientific theory, then so was astrology.

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September 28, 2009, 07:27
<Proofreader>
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They incorrectly replaced "creationists" with "design proponents" and got "cdesign proponentsists".

Thanks, Goofy. I knew they replaced the words incorrectly but it's been quite some time since I saw the film.