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March 12, 2007, 13:10
wordcrafter
Miscellaneous Words
No theme this week; just miscellaneous words. We start with one that's used as a technical term in psychology, but deserves broader usage.

labile – liable to change; easily altered. (chemistry: easily broken down or displaced)

AHD says "open to change; adaptable; an emotionally labile person", which would seem a positive trait. But OED confirms my reading that the word implies instability. To demonstrate that reading, I'll present more quotes than usual.

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March 12, 2007, 19:49
Kalleh
It's quite common in medicine, really. Probably the most common use there is labile blood pressure, though it's commonly used in psychology, too.
March 13, 2007, 08:15
zmježd
I learned the psychological meaning of it a while back, along with affect as a noun, describing one's facial expression indicating one's mood (i.e., a poker face is similar to having no affect). The great thing about labile is that many assume it to be somehow risque.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 13, 2007, 10:31
wordcrafter
percipient1. perceiving 2. having perception; discerning; discriminatingalso, as a noun: percipient – one who receives a telepathic impulse or message
March 13, 2007, 21:37
BobKberg
I would guess (Oh - I spelled Emperor wrong in another post) - that some folks might think "labile" risque because of its resemblance to "labia" (assuming the nether pair)

My $.02 worth.

Bob
March 14, 2007, 07:06
wordcrafter
Welcome, Bob!

I must admit that that was my initial impression of the word!
March 14, 2007, 07:07
wordcrafter
Today's word is often seen in the sense of "that wascally wabbit", but is rare in its original sense.

wabbitScottish: exhausted or unwell

Mothers, do you remember what it was like to have a newborn babe in the house?
March 14, 2007, 23:19
Kalleh
Makes sense about "labile," but I have never thought of it that way before.
March 15, 2007, 07:46
zmježd
Makes sense about "labile,"

We already have the adjectival form labial 'having to do with the lips'. Labile is, via French, from Latin labilis 'apt to slip'.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 15, 2007, 08:38
wordcrafter
Today, a very obscure word of new-motherhood. It is similar and related to a familiar word of very different meaning, which may help you remember it.

An ancient, knowing no astronomy, would see in the night sky pinpoints of light sprinkled in a dark background. He'd soon notice that those pinpoints are always in the same pattern, night after night, not moving relative to each other. Despite a few moving objects (the obvious moon [a non-pinpoint], a few planets, the occasional comet, and fast-flashing meteors), the general pattern is fixed points of light. Finally, the pinpoints are randomly scattered across the sky, not forming obvious patterns like lines, circles, etc., or grouping to make clumps or vacant areas, beyond what you'd see in a random scattering.
. . .But one anomalous object, though in a fixed position night after night, is not a pinpoint and is not matched by other like objects, randomly spread. It is a vague, irregular, milky-white band of light across the sky. The ancient Greeks called it galaxias or kyklos galaktikos, meaning "milky circle".
. . .Today we know that the stars are in fact not randomly scattered: they cluster. Each cluster has millions or billions of stars, but the clusters are so far apart that the ancient's naked eye could see only in our own cluster. Now as it happens, our cluster is disc-shaped, and we are out near the edge of that disc. So the ancient would see more of the disc (more stars) if he looked in one particular direction – along its plane, rather than above or below it – especially if looking towards the disc's center. In that direction he would see so many stars that they blend into a milky band, the one he called the kyklos galaktikos. And that is why we call such a clump of stars a galaxy.

In other words, our word galaxy comes from the word for 'milk'; it is cognate to lactation. It thus connects with new mothers, and with today's word.

agalaxy – failure of lactation; failure of the due secretion of milk after childbirth
March 15, 2007, 08:44
zmježd
agalaxy

A Guinness would be good for her ...


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 15, 2007, 08:57
arnie
quote:
agalaxy

Made of milk chocolate, of course. Do you have Galaxy bars in the US?


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
March 15, 2007, 09:23
Robert Arvanitis
To my ear, the form might be "agalaxia" or "agalactia," where "ia" denotes a condition. Compare hypothermia, hypochondria, anemia, etc.


RJA
March 15, 2007, 09:28
zmježd
The origin of our -y, as in galaxy, is from Latin -ia via French -ie (/i/).


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 15, 2007, 09:46
neveu
quote:
Do you have Galaxy bars in the US?

No, but we have Milky Way bars. And Mars bars. And Moon Pies.
March 15, 2007, 10:20
wordnerd
quote:
And Mars bars.

Actually, we don't have Mars bars any more. They were different from the UK Mars bars, and they were discontinued in 2000.

The name is not from the planet but from the manufacture, Mars, Incorporated, founded and owned by the Mars family. But its products do include Galaxy, Milky Way and Starburst
March 15, 2007, 18:26
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Arvanitis:
To my ear, the form might be "agalaxia" or "agalactia," where "ia" denotes a condition.

From the OED Online:

I can't reproduce the Greek. The first citation (1731) spells it Agala´xy. The apostrophe suggests to me a missing letter.

Tinman
March 15, 2007, 22:05
zmježd
The apostrophe suggests to me a missing letter.

And, what would the missing letter be? I think it might be an accent: agaláxy.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
March 16, 2007, 12:50
wordcrafter
soporific1. drowsy 2. inducing drowsiness or sleep (noun: a drug or other thing that makes one drowsy)Question for our readers, raised by the last quote:
What is the difference between a sail and a sheet? Do we have any nautical experts out there?
March 16, 2007, 16:38
jerry thomas
sheet

1. Nautical.

a. a rope or chain for extending the
clew
of a square sail along a yard.

b. a rope for trimming a fore-and-aft sail.

c. a rope or chain for extending the lee clew of a course.

(from Dictionary.com)
March 17, 2007, 16:18
wordcrafter
divagate1. to wander or drift about 2. to ramble; digress
March 17, 2007, 16:30
Robert Arvanitis
Divagate, related to the vagus ("wandering") nerve, whence also vagrants.

See https://wordcraft.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/75660456...701085973#8701085973


RJA
March 18, 2007, 11:38
wordcrafter
tzigane (accent on 2nd syllable) – a Hungarian gypsy
[also seems to be used to mean 'gypsy music', though I don't find that definition in the dictionaries]
March 18, 2007, 12:19
neveu
I thought divagate was a political scandal involving female opera singers.
March 18, 2007, 14:30
shufitz
<groans> Razz

[and rushes off to create a Tom Swiftie]
March 19, 2007, 19:40
wordcrafter
zeitgeber – an environmental cue (as the length of daylight, or the temperature) that helps to regulate an organism's biological clock
March 20, 2007, 19:59
Kalleh
What's the difference between zietgebers and Circadian rhythm?
March 20, 2007, 20:13
jerry thomas
I can truthfully say that never never never in my long and varied life have I ever given a moment's thought to the difference between zeitgebers and Circadian rhythm.

Not once.

I swear.
March 20, 2007, 20:39
Myth Jellies
Zeitgebers are the environmental factors which give rise to, or affect your circadian or diurnal rhythms. Bright light/sunlight, crying newborns, etc.

By the way, biological processes that occur more frequently than on a daily basis are called ultradian. The sleep patterns of newborns are based on ultradian cycles like appetite.


Myth Jellies
Cerebroplegia--the cure is within our grasp
March 20, 2007, 20:51
neveu
quote:
By the way, biological processes that occur more frequently than on a daily basis are called ultradian.


Animals whose cycles of rest and activity are ultradian are called cathemeral. I think it only applies to a single species of Madagascan lemur.
March 20, 2007, 20:57
Myth Jellies
I would have suspected that many cave or deep ocean dwelling creatures would be cathemeral. I recall hearing that there were studies with people in caves where their rest/activity cycle became significantly longer than 24 hours.


Myth Jellies
Cerebroplegia--the cure is within our grasp
March 20, 2007, 21:13
neveu
Interesting ... organisms living in the bat guano ecosystem would have the zeitgeber of bat activity, but organisms living on bacteria in deeper regions might have some fascinating rhythms.
March 21, 2007, 19:52
Kalleh
I found an interesting link here about circadian rhythms. This part was particularly relevant to our discussion:
quote:
By depriving people of light and other external time cues, scientists have learned that most people’s biological clocks work on a 25-hour cycle rather than a 24-hour one. But because sunlight or other bright lights can reset the SCN, our biological cycles normally follow the 24-hour cycle of the sun, rather than our innate cycle. Circadian rhythms can be affected to some degree by almost any kind of external time cue, such as the beeping of your alarm clock, the clatter of a garbage truck, or the timing of your meals. Scientists call external time cues zeitgebers (German for "time givers").

I hadn't known about our 25-hour biological clocks. I also found it interesting that blind people often have life-long sleeping problems because their retinas can't detect light.
quote:
I can truthfully say that never never never in my long and varied life have I ever given a moment's thought to the difference between zeitgebers and Circadian rhythm.

Not once.

I swear.

Okay, Jerry. I'll admit it. I am a bona fide geek. Wink
March 22, 2007, 01:51
Richard English
quote:
By depriving people of light and other external time cues, scientists have learned that most people’s biological clocks work on a 25-hour cycle rather than a 24-hour one.

I read a hypothesis somewhere that suggested that this was because, at the time when animal life started to evolve, the Earth's revolved more slowly, taking around 25 hours per revolution. I don't know whether I agree with the idea, though.


Richard English
March 22, 2007, 06:01
saranita
I experienced an example of this phenomenon. Where I used to live, in Southern Ohio, we had a lot of whipporwills. Listening to their calls from the patio as dusk fell was a sweet pleasure of summertime. The last few years I lived there, I noticed that no longer did I hear their calls only at twilight but at varying times, so I looked into it through the local OSU extension office. Turns out the whipporwills had become confused by all the dusk-to-dawn lighting people had installed out in rural areas.
March 22, 2007, 20:25
Kalleh
Saranita, I love your phraseology, "sweet pleasure of summertime." It says it all! That is so interesting about the whipporwills.

I wondered about the 25 hours, Richard. The explanation you heard does seem plausible. I will see what I can find about it.
March 22, 2007, 22:20
Myth Jellies
quote:
Originally posted by Richard English:
quote:
By depriving people of light and other external time cues, scientists have learned that most people’s biological clocks work on a 25-hour cycle rather than a 24-hour one.

I read a hypothesis somewhere that suggested that this was because, at the time when animal life started to evolve, the Earth's revolved more slowly, taking around 25 hours per revolution. I don't know whether I agree with the idea, though.


Seems to me, that with gravitational drag and all, the planet's spin should be slowing down, not speeding up. I don't buy that one.

I think it more likely that a 25 hour cycle that is constantly reset allows an animal to better stay alert and take advantage of the extra daylight when the days get longer


Myth Jellies
Cerebroplegia--the cure is within our grasp
March 23, 2007, 09:44
neveu
quote:
Seems to me, that with gravitational drag and all, the planet's spin should be slowing down, not speeding up. I don't buy that one.

You are correct. According to the Naval Observatory, the time for a complete rotation increases by about 2 milliseconds per day per century.
March 24, 2007, 07:44
Seanahan
While I agree with neveu about the planet slowing down, I disagree this is the cause for the 25-hour natural body rhythm. At 2ms per day per century, it takes 500 centuries for the rotation to slow down a second! At this rate, the rotation would have slowed down an hour after 43 million years! It seems unrealistic that evolution wouldn't correct such a minor thing after this lengthy period of time.
March 25, 2007, 01:05
Myth Jellies
...to say nothing of the fact that the day would have been 23 hours long millions of years ago, not 25 hours.

I agree that evolution probably has had ample time to correct this mismatch. Either the mismatch causes no ill affects, or it actually provides a slight benefit. I was trying to come up with a reason why there might be a benefit. The idea that the mismatch might aid the animal in adjusting to different amounts of daylight/night as the seasons change is just a wild unresearched guess on my part.


Myth Jellies
Cerebroplegia--the cure is within our grasp
March 25, 2007, 02:13
Richard English
As I said, it was a hypothesis I read a while ago and I've not researched it.

One thing that would have happened to the Earth's rotation in the early days of its existence is that it would have speeded up. The Earth started out as a large ball of gas that gradually coalesced and shrunk under the influence of gravity. As it shrunk its speed of rotation will have increased assuming the total amount of energy in the system remained constant; that is a basic fact of the physics of rotating bodies. Once the shrinkage had ended, then a gradual reduction of speed would occur - although with the amount of kinetic energy available and the relatively few constraints on motion, this would be a very small reduction.

Of course, the increasing speed phenomenon might well have long finished before life began; that's why I said I am not convinced by the hypothesis - but it is something that I might try to research.


Richard English
March 25, 2007, 20:22
Myth Jellies
As the Earth was shrinking, it was surely unfit for life.

But I suppose it might be possible that as the Earth captured the spin of the Moon some of that angular momentum might have been transfered to the Earth, although it is likely that that occurred before the advent of life as well.


Myth Jellies
Cerebroplegia--the cure is within our grasp