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I'm all for some technology that would let us read text on a book-sized screen, where the text is drawn from a hard drive or the net or someplace. As long as I can beam the book to a friend, read it on other devices like my iPod, and mark it with some sort of touch device.

I've got way too many books taking up way too much space. If I could get rid of the paper books and store their contents on a hard drive like I do with my music, that would be awesome.


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I'm all for some technology that would let us read text on a book-sized screen, where the text is drawn from a hard drive or the net or someplace. As long as I can beam the book to a friend, read it on other devices like my iPod, and mark it with some sort of touch device.

I've got way too many books taking up way too much space. If I could get rid of the paper books and store their contents on a hard drive like I do with my music, that would be awesome.


Fine until you drop your kindle and break it and lose not only the book you were reading (and remember that in terms of dropping them books are damn near indestructible) but your entire library.)
 
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[QFine until you drop your kindle and break it and lose not only the book you were reading (and remember that in terms of dropping them books are damn near indestructible) but your entire library.)


Obviously I'd have all the files backed up. Smile

Altho you might have a point about the Kindle... you can download a book again if something goes wrong with the Kindle, but it's not clear if you can back up the files to your own storage.


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I've got way too many books taking up way too much space. If I could get rid of the paper books and store their contents on a hard drive like I do with my music, that would be awesome.
It's awesome for some here, and awful for others. That's life. People are very different. Some of us, young and old, can't give up our books. Others, similarly, are ready to squash the book mites and toss them out, creating more room. That's fine. That tells me that the Kindle could become popular for some, but it will never replace books.

I'd love to look ahead to 2050 and see if I'm right. I'm sure in the 1950s no one would have predicted the place of computers in our society, so who knows...I could be wrong.
 
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It's awesome for some here, and awful for others. That's life. People are very different. Some of us, young and old, can't give up our books. Others, similarly, are ready to squash the book mites and toss them out, creating more room. That's fine. That tells me that the Kindle could become popular for some, but it will never replace books.


Fair enuf, but I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about the Kindle. I don't like the Kindle, for reasons I've already given. I'm talking about some hypothetical device that stores books without digital rights management.


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And no one has yet commented on nutcases like me who collect masses of different editions of a single book just because they have different pictures, or different commentaries, or are in foreign languages or are pop-up editions (duplicate that if you can!).

It wouldn't be a millionth as much fun to read one copy on a kindle as it is to poke around in dusty bookshops and yell "Eureka!" when I come across a rare edition with some previously unknown (to me) illustrations.
 
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Bob, I can't believe I didn't introduce you to my daughter when you were here; she would just love talking with such a bibliophile!

Shu told me a great story about Asimov and books, and I am trying to get him to post it here. Shu???
 
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I would love to know if most librarians agree with CW about the Kindle. I'd think not, but who knows.

I would imagine it runs the gamut - some loving books so much they can't imagine ebooks ever really catching on, and some who are even more rabidly fascinating with technology than me! I certainly can't speak for my entire profession, but I did find a blogthat leads one to many commentaries.

I also found this blog that pans the device (and links to other librarian blogs about the Kindle). I find it interesing what people are objecting to, and I have to agree with most of them. It's the proprietary-ness of the device (you can only download from Amazon, and you can't beam your books to your friends), and it is the "single use-ness" of the device.

These are both very good points. No point in spending $400 on a device that ONLY allows text-reading. I want a device that will allow that book-like experience AND let me take pictures and call my friends.

The best quote I've found so far to describe what I'm feeling now is from Free Range Librarian:
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Bob - I don't think you're all that odd. You're a collector. Collectors will still collect their stuff. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is. I totally understand your desire for the discovery and your enjoyment of books. I see that as a different thing from the books we all pick up, read, and return to the library. Doesn't anyone else do that?


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Bob - I don't think you're all that odd. You're a collector. Collectors will still collect their stuff. That's not a bad thing. It is what it is. I totally understand your desire for the discovery and your enjoyment of books. I see that as a different thing from the books we all pick up, read, and return to the library. Doesn't anyone else do that?


Absolutely. I collect comic books, and I borrow novels from the library so I have more room for comic books. I wouldn't want to read comics on an electronic device - unless it was a super scifi thing that could grow and shrink (some of my books are a large format, some are small) and could display colour really really nicely. But even then you might lose something in not having the physical objects - like these.


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What kind of comic books do you collect goofy? I collected for many years although in recent years I've been selling off my collection. So far I've got rid of about half of it which means there's no some space in my house but still not enough.
 
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I mostly collect French language comics (Moebius, Druillet, Bilal, Jodorowsky, Peeters & Schuiten, Mattotti), and I have a lot of American/British stuff like Chris Ware, Richard Sala, Dan Clowes, and Alan Moore, and I collect everything written by Grant Morrison. It's not a big collection compared to some I've seen, but I have a very small place. It sounds like you have a lot more comics than me!


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Yes, Bob, Shu and I saw that today, too. Isn't it the truth? I am sure some predicted that iPods and computers and cell phones and eBay and Google would never take, and of course they'd be wrong. So I might feel silly in 10 years, but I really can't see that Kindle being used by the general population, though it could be a lifesaver for those with eyesight problems, as Wordmatic posted.
 
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Here's an article on the use of e-books in the college classroom that will give some of you hope!

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2008/01/03/ebooks

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Ah, yes: the sky is falling.
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Yet, when Mr. [Steve] Jobs [CEO of Apple] was asked two weeks ago at the Macworld Expo what he thought of the Kindle, he heaped scorn on the book industry. “It doesn’t matter how good or bad the product is; the fact is that people don’t read anymore,” he said. “Forty percent of the people in the U.S. read one book or less last year.”

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A survey conducted in August 2007 by Ipsos Public Affairs for The Associated Press found that 27 percent of Americans had not read a book in the previous year. Not as bad as Mr. Jobs’s figure, but dismaying to be sure. Happily, however, the same share — 27 percent — read 15 or more books.

In fact, when we exclude Americans who had not read a single book in that year, the average number of books read was 20, raised by the 8 percent who read 51 books or more. In other words, a sizable minority does not read, but the overall distribution is balanced somewhat by those who read a lot.

[In the New York Times (registration required) via an article on Dennis Baron's The Web of Language site.]


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Very interesting, z. I think he is right. When I first started in academia, writing an article was a big thing. Now it's so easy. Similarly, while we connected with our colleagues at regional conferences and once in awhile at national ones, now we can connect with our colleagues worldwide whenever we want. I just love it!
 
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