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<Asa Lovejoy>
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I've long wondered about the origins of this "naughty" term. The French, "putain," (prostitute) perhaps? That would be a stretch if so. I can't find anything definitive. Any guesses?
 
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Well, that's strange. I just know we've talked about "poontang" here because I think I brought it up. However, when I search for it, I come up with zilch. Does anyone remember the thread?
 
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Medical Latin includes the term "pudendum..."

For the persistent - pudendus, from gerundive of pudEre to be ashamed. Merriam Webster.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/pudendum


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More info here, here, and here.


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K,

We had a PM correspondence about it a couple of years ago. Someone complained his posts were being censored. Remember?


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Ohhhhh...that's it! I knew I had posted about it somewhere. A new poster (who hasn't continued with us) had PM'd me, saying that he had tried to post about poontang and complained that our softwared had censored his post; he cited that as American "prudishness." I had PM'd Arnie about it, and of course the guy was all wet. Our software doesn't censor anything.

Besides that, we are surely not only Americans here; we are about 50/50 UK and American. So there! Razz
 
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Forum censoring software is often quite confusing. I've gotten through words you wouldn't believe, but seen my posts get censored like this, "Molotov ****tail".
 
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I assume he meant that the forum software was American-written and -hosted. Infopop/Groupee are based in Seattle, I believe.

We do have the ability to use a censoring system, but we haven't (so far!) needed it.


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The notion of censoring software brings to mind a cartoon. The administrative assistant asks the executive "Shall I correct just spelling and grammar, or conceptual errors as well?"


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The censor on the APS forum (fondly known as the Net Nanny) sometimes does some extraordinary things to posts.

The most recent was in a discussion of swear words. A poster from Sweden (ex-pat British) mentioned "jävla fitta" which is apparently a Swedish expletive. Net Nanny censored the second word. However, she routinely ignores UK English swear words like "bugger". Interestingly, I created a post containing "poontang" there and Net Nanny ignored it!


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One man's meat is another's euphemism.

I recall something about an old Russian word for 'bear,' which originally meant "that which must not be named." Until, of course, it came to be exactly that name.


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UK English swear words like "bugger".

"Bugger" isn't a swear word here at all. How bad is it? I remember when I posted "arse" on the wordcraftjr forum, and Arnie had to delete it! Again, while "ass" isn't so nice here, it isn't horrible.
 
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Speaking of Spoonerisms, there is a children's clothing line call "Rugged Bear."

Imagine if the Reverend Doctor (1844-1930) tried that one.


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fitta" which is apparently a Swedish expletive.

It's the part of the girl that makes her a girl.
 
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It's the part of the girl that makes her a girl.

The second X-chromosome?

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Speaking in gross anatomical terms, Tinny! Big Grin It's what you get when you put them there two chromosomes together!
 
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"Bugger" isn't a swear word here at all. How bad is it?

It's another word for "sodomy" and thus it's quite bad.


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As a verb it means to perform sodomy. ("There once was a man from St. Johns / Who wanted to _____ the swans").

But as a noun -- as in "that little bugger" -- does it mean sodomy, or sodomite, or something else?
 
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It's usually used as a slightly better alternative to 'fuck' here. 'Bugger off!' 'It's buggered' 'I'm buggered!'(meaning tired, and I must say, a nice alternative to being knackered!))and the slight alternative, I think, 'I'm buggered if I know....'meaning bafflement. It's very rarely used in it's original sense here.

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And talking about 'Net Nanny's' I post on one that replaces any word with 'cock' in it in with 'sausage' hence "sausage*tail", "sausage*pit" and 'arse' with "bottom" hence"he*bottom", also "bugger" becomes 'blighter' and "bloody", 'blinking'! Which makes me think it should be called the Mary Poppins Net Nanny! Ah, yes and Scunthorpe becomes S*spangle*horpe!

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And damn it, I've been to the pub tonight! I can't be bothered to edit the last post- sorry!
 
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I think I'd stop posting on any board that tried to censor my language. I did, indeed, leave the APS for that very reason.

Any adult word board should be able to discuss "swearwords" in a dispassionate manner, as, to its great credit, did "Balderdash and Piffle" - now sadly finished for the moment.


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I think I'd stop posting on any board that tried to censor my language. I did, indeed, leave the APS for that very reason.

Any adult word board should be able to discuss "swearwords" in a dispassionate manner, as, to its great credit, did "Balderdash and Piffle" - now sadly finished for the moment.


I must disagree on one small point. It's my belief that B&P discussed swearwords merely in an attempt to attract the more prurient section of the public. While I watched the program and found the content interesting I also found that much about it was extremely irritating and I'd hardly call the style of many of the items "adult" or "dispassionate".

I agree that there shouldn't be taboo areas for discussion though and if censorship is to be imposed (for which there may be perfectly good reasons - a board likely to be visited by many children, for example) it should be clear from the outset what the policy is and why it is there.


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The other forum I post on I mentioned isn't a word forum but takes the view that it's a family forum which should be able to be viewed by children if need be, I can't really argue with that as it's a forum discussing cars you shouldn't really need to use expletives although you do need them when skinning your knuckles when you slip with a spanner!
Regarding Balderdash and Piffle, I missed a few as I have a terrible memory. The last one with Germaine Greer discussing 'cunt' felt a little strange! Whilst no surprise to hear Ms. Greer using it (for some reason!), it was a little surreal to hear two ladies discussing it in a polite conversational sort of way- after all only 15 years or so ago virtually all bad language on TV was either edited out or dubbed in typical 'airline' fashion which often sounds comical- "Fun you, you melonfarmer!".

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The last one with Germaine Greer discussing 'cunt' felt a little strange!

Interesting that the word should come up here since Shu and I just heard it today in "Love's Labour's Lost." I agree though, Erik, about it being strange to hear the word discussed. It really is a very filthy word here.
 
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Chauvinists hereabouts think it's an acronym for "Cannot Understand Normal Thinking." It really has a long history, though, so shouldn't be disparaged.
 
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It really has a long history, though, so shouldn't be disparaged.
The first OED cite reads: c1230 in Ekwall Street-Names of City of London (1954) 165 Gropecuntelane. And I believe that Chaucer used the word liberally, with an 'e' at the end.
 
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Ah, found some Chaucer. Three just from the prologue to the Wife of Bath's tale:

Lines 331-332:
For, certeyn, olde dotard, by youre leve,
Ye shul have queynte right ynogh at eve.
. . . .(For, certainly, old senile fool, by your leave,
. . . .You shall have ______ right enough at eve.)

Lines 443-444:
What eyleth yow to grucche thus and grone?
Is it for ye wolde have my queynte allone?
. . . .(What ails you to grouch thus and groan?
. . . .Is it because you want to have my ______ all to yourself?)

Lines 607-608:
And trewely, as myne housbondes tolde me,
I hadde the beste quoniam myghte be.
. . . .(And truly, as my husbands told me,
. . . .I had the best ______ that might be.)
 
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It really is a very filthy word here.

Strange how such a thing, sought and enjoyed by a large percentage of the population, should be so unmentionable an unviewable.

Contrast that with such things as murder and mutilation, spoke of and shown daily in the media.


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Contrast that with such things as murder and mutilation, spoke of and shown daily in the media.

It does seem a bit twisted, doesn't it?


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Originally posted by Erik Johansen:
It's usually used as a slightly better alternative to 'fuck' here. 'Bugger off!' 'It's buggered' 'I'm buggered!'(meaning tired, and I must say, a nice alternative to being knackered!))and the slight alternative, I think, 'I'm buggered if I know....'meaning bafflement. It's very rarely used in it's original sense here.


Quite right. We English have a more refined mode of common usage! Indeed in EJ's locale the phrase: "Why, you bugger" is a term of endearment or affection with no hint of sodomy.
 
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