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After Stella mentioned her impending visit to Oz, I began to wonder why it is that Anglo-Australians refer to the people who were there first as aboriginals, but we in the Americas do not do the same for the aboriginal peoples of these two continents. It seems to me to make much more sense than "Indians," which they certainly are not.
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Wikipedia says
American Indian activist Russell Means, disagrees about the origin of the word "Indian." Means says (on his website - click on "Speeches"):
(That speech an also be found here in an easier-to-read format.) and (from another site):
And from the Antiques Roadshow site:
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There is also some confusion about the word Indian, a mistaken belief that it refers somehow to the country, India. When Columbus washed up on the beach in the Caribbean, he was not looking for a country called India. Europeans were calling that country Hindustan in 1492. Look it up on the old maps. Columbus called the tribal people he met "Indio," from the Italian in dio, meaning "in God."
Has the sound of a wishful folk etymology. And just why would Columbus name Indians in Italian? (Although Columbus was from Genoa, he spoke and wrote Spanish, because he had lived in Spain for quite a while, had a mostly Iberian crew, and worked for the Spanish crown.) And what exactly does "in god" mean as the name of a people? As for what India was called: it depends on the language. The Greeks called it India, the Persians called it Hindustan (land of the Indus river), the English called it India (at least by 1600 when Elizabeth I granted the charter for the East India Company). —Ceci n'est pas un seing. |
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Hmmmmm.... Tinman gave us something to chew on, but I do see, at least superficially, the similarity between (H)indus-stan and Ind-ia. Same root, I assume.
I'd not thought about what language Columbo (Forget the Latin here!) spoke, but I seem to remember reading that his logs were in Spanish. What do the pre-Anglo Australians call themselves? For that matter, why does everyone but the Germans themselves use a Greek word for that collection of Teutonic tribes? |
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Australian aborigines tend to prefer "Aboriginals" (with a capital "A") apparently. There has been a fairly recent trend by some white Australians to label them "indigenous Australians", but they themselves are mostly not keen on that name.
There are over 400 distinct Aboriginal languages/dialects that have been identified in Australia, each with its own 'native' word. This message has been edited. Last edited by: arnie, Come on you raver, you seer of visions, Come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine! |
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Yes, both are from an Indic source, cf Sanskrit sindhu "river". This message has been edited. Last edited by: goofy, |
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