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Does anybody know if there is a word for the rhetorical structure where the first half of one phrase is joined to the second half o a different one to, perhaps, give a comic effect.

Eg

You can't have your cake and lie in it.

Too many cooks gather no moss.

A rolling stone is worth two in the bush.

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and in a similar vein the term for subverting a common saying by altering the ending

If at first you don't succeed, give up.

People who live in glass houses should draw the curtain round the shower.


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Do any of these work?

Anti-proverb (Wikipedia)
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An anti-proverb or a perverb is the transformation of a standard proverb for humorous effect.

Perverb (World Wide Words)
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You create one by snapping a couple of existing proverbs in half and joining the end of one to the beginning of the other:

A rolling stone gets the worm,

A bird in the hand waits for no man

Don’t count your chickens before you can walk

The devil takes the sailor’s delight

The road to Hell wasn’t paved in a day.

It’s a blend or portmanteau from perverted proverb.

Paraprosdokian (Wikipedia)
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A paraprosdokian (/pærəprɒsˈdoʊkiən/) is a figure of speech in which the latter part of a sentence, phrase, or larger discourse is surprising or unexpected in a way that causes the reader or listener to reframe or reinterpret the first part. It is frequently used for humorous or dramatic effect, sometimes producing an anticlimax. For this reason, it is extremely popular among comedians and satirists.[1] Some paraprosdokians not only change the meaning of an early phrase, but they also play on the double meaning of a particular word, creating a form of syllepsis.

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"There but for the grace of God—goes God." —Winston Churchill

"If I could just say a few words… I'd be a better public speaker." —Homer Simpson

"If I am reading this graph correctly—I'd be very surprised." —Stephen Colbert

"On his feet he wore…blisters." —Aristotle

"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it." —Groucho Marx

"A modest man, who has much to be modest about." —supposedly Winston Churchill, about Clement Attlee

"I like going to the park and watching the children run around because they don't know I'm using blanks." —Emo Philips

"I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long." —Mitch Hedberg

"I sleep eight hours a day and at least ten at night." —Bill Hicks

"I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat." —Will Rogers

"On the other hand, you have different fingers." —Steven Wright

"He was at his best when the going was good." —Alistair Cooke on the Duke of Windsor
 
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tinman, where have you been? "Syllepsis" - wow, nice word, cool concept.

Tinman won't you just step over to wordplay & cast a vote on the Topeka poll [limerick game] pretty pls w/sugar on top?

BobHale, love this idea, it would be a great addition to word games. We could include perverbs & tinman's paraprosdokians. Perverbs: even tho this thread provides many, seems like the proverb halves could be shuffled for more results. Ppdokians look to be difficult. I'm thinking they comprise much of Steven Wright's humor.
 
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I'd sug that the "jokes" thread be moved to the Word Games thread s it doesn't conflict with limerick games.
 
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The anti-proverbs and perverbs seem to be used with proverbs, while the paraprosdokians seem to be used with quotes. Either way, I think it would be a fun game, Bethree! Smile
 
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A similar concept is known to comedians as "bait and switch". An example is: while doing a bit about football Robin Williams described quarterbacks as "men with big hands and big feet, and you ladies know what that means. Yes... big gloves and big shoes."


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When E. F. Hutton speaks, he's quoting Tinman.

BTW, wasn't Paraprosdokian from Armenia?
 
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BTW, wasn't paraprosdokian from Armenia?
It isn't in the OED. When I put it in Google translate for Armenia, it says "Translate from Albanian" and then is translated as "paraprosdokian."
 
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I was trying to be funny. I failed!
 
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Originally posted by Geoff:
I was trying to be funny. I failed!


Dunno, I chuckled.


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And another question...

is there a term for the substitution of a common phrase by a more convoluted paraphrase?

It was brought to mind when shu posted on Facebook a quote about the New York Times.

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Does the New York Times have a liberal bias? Most readers of this column would answer the question with a rhetorical one about ursine digestive functions or the religious affiliation of the pope.


I need offer no more examples.


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Sesquipedalian loquaciousness?


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I considered loquaciousness and circumlocution but neither contain the element of adapting an existing phrase only the notion of wordiness.


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But what about sesquipedalian?
 
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Just means "long words"


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I know, but you could say something like, "Those words are too sesquipedalian to be understood by all. How about...? I mean, you don't have to have a word for every little thought, do you?
 
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True but there are all sorts of rhetorical terms for all sorts of ideas and I just wondered if there was one for this.


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Wow - who would have thought there'd be so many?
 
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