February 24, 2020, 16:13
haberdasherI’ve been informed of places where “y’all” is exclusively second-person-singular. The plural is “y’all all.”
Have we any Suthners here to confirm (or refute)?
February 24, 2020, 16:56
BobHaleOne of the teachers I trained a few years ago used y’all for singular and y’all y’all for plural. He also used y’all’s and y’all y’all’s for the possessive forms. I hope he didn’t teach that to his students.
February 25, 2020, 15:27
bethree5Nice link, Geoff. I’d argue with this: “Spanish speakers will use "vosotros" or "ustedes" (the former is more informal while the latter is more courteous)”: the fact is, “vosotros,” though de rigueur in Spain, is not used at all in many Latin American countries (& they don’t need it). But it is nice & nerdy to know that in countries where both are used, there’s a distinction.
Hey, they didn’t mention “yiz’l”? PA/ Philly talk of yore, don’t know if it’s still around. I have yet to meet anyone who says “yinz” but then I don’t know many from western PA. Still hear “youse” now & then, from those descended from Brooklynites.
As a gal, I like the idea of “you all” (or y’all) replacing “you guys,” but I think it’s a lost cause. I think what’s actually happening is that “guys” is becoming unisex!
February 25, 2020, 15:46
GeoffRemember that "girl" was originally for either sex. EOL notes it:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/girlI don't speak Spanish, but have been exposed to it so much that I recognize lots of it. Never have I heard, "vosotros," whether from Spaniards of New World speakers.
Don't forget about the Charleston yacht maker who threw a party and said, "Yawl come!"
March 24, 2020, 19:59
KallehI had not known that about girl, Geoff.