MCMOOSEN hint#3 (at your own risk)

It's not really an "e", it's an "é"

[This message was edited by haberdasher on Tue Dec 2nd, 2003 at 11:17.]

CONS0MMÉ



FASTBEEKE

Jerry, good one!

The closest I could come to was "commones": " And the mare that he commones with hym the mare he travayles hym." I knew Haberdasher was smart, but I wasn't sure he'd be that obscure!

FASTBEEKE

Beefsteak

SICUNEI

CUISINE


AUREOLATILT

Is it one word?

oui, madame, it is one word

More questions ??

Anticipating another question ... here is another answer ==> The initial letter is "r"

Its provenance is Provence

[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Tue Dec 2nd, 2003 at 14:54.]

AUREOLATILT

Sounds like confused Cajun to me - but whadda I know! Ratatouille, peut-etre?

IBRRETA

RAREBIT

a tri-anagram:

HOTEL SUITE or
ELITE SOUTH or
HOSTILE UTE

RAREBIT?

ARBITER?

CZEISHEWHE

Cheese Whiz???? I doubt that is right.

However, I will put another word anyway.

ALECCOTHO

How about some rules for this quiz? I propose that each answer be one word only, and be a recognised English word rather than a foreign word.

ALECCOTHO

chocolate

LACHOOL

ALCOHOL

Yes, but... is consomme French or English? Is ratatouille? What about bouillon? Bouillabaisse? Guillotine? Silhouette? Chauffeur? Chaperone? Angst? Schadenfreude? So many fuzzy grey areas!

PERSONISCH

CENSORSHIP




DEFENCHIKRIC (To be cancelled if judged an American word and not a Certified English word)

[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Wed Dec 3rd, 2003 at 21:30.]

I think Arnie's rules are straighforward. All of Hab's suggestions, with the possible exception of "schadenfreude", are English words.

However, I am, once again, stumped. I think I should take a break from this thread for awhile; I am getting worse, rather than better! Any hints at getting these? Clearly, "jumbling" the letters on a piece of paper, especially with these big words, is useless.

I probably unwittingly violated some rules, and if so I apologize. Here are my last two one-word entries, linked to their dictionary entries.

RATATOUILLE


CHICKENFRIED

I wouldn't have ever got chickenfried. It is not a word in use outside America. Also, the dictionary entry cited shows it as a hyphenated word (chicken-fried), not as a single word.

Shortly after your objection to ratatouille due to its being non English, I ran onto chickenfried (no hyphen) in something I was reading. The word is used in western U.S.A. in referring to low-class eating places. "The Chickenfried Steak place" is also called "The Greasy Spoon."

This is the end of this game for me in view of my unfamiliarity with English English.

~~~ jerry (an interested spectator)

[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Thu Dec 4th, 2003 at 8:38.]

(Has enough time elapsed?)

Anyone find HOTELSUITE yet?

hotelsuite

SILHOUETTE

How can I stop now?

YADOCIINTR

Jerry, no one was criticizing you specifically. We were just trying to come up with some rules. If you note, I posted that I, at least, consider "ratatouille" an English word since we all know what it means and it is on lots of menus. However, I'd hate to see a French word that none of us know. "Schadenfreude" is a little more obscure, in my mind. Obscure words can be a problem, such as my post of "epicaricacy." Since many English words have an etymology in another language, it would be nearly impossible to say "only English words", and I don't think that's what Arnie meant.

Now, I would never have gotten "chickenfried" (it's not in my vernacular), so that has nothing to do with English-English versus American-English.

dictionary
(or just possibly: indicatory)

MENUMINILL

DISTITYUP

BTW, Arnie, I had meant "dictionary", but "indicatory" was good too!

(don't you beleive it for a second!)

stupidity

ORICECOLD

Crocodile

AORTAGILL

alligator

MEETSNAILTN

sentimental

GRAAVY

HEROISM + S ?

No, but I wonder if the effect of heroism differs from heroisms?

RHISOMES has a Z in my book. (I don't think I'm getting any closer.)

Think in terms of different doses between heroism and heroisms.

I got it before reading your hint. And it's a good thing, too, because HORMESIS isn't part of my working vocabulary yet, so it wouldn't have helped that much, except for leading to a search on these threads. Perhaps now it is!

OHARRYNO

Oh, I am sorry. I broke my own rule (no obscure words.) I am sure I never would have gotten it!

PTHENEAL

elephant

GRINDELOO
(I've been settng this up!)

gondolier

HREWDSINE

swineherd

HLCORNLACE

(moving right along, from last Sunday's production to next Spring's)

It's interesting how Gilbert has used "vagary" only twice (?verification?) in the popular operettas, and both times put the accent on the wrong syllable. Gondoliers has "va-GAR-y" (and ho-no-RAR-y) to rhyme with gon-dol-IER-i. Iolanthe has va-GAR-y rhyming with fairy (and wary), along with quan-DAR-y and li-BRAR-y and se-mi-NAR-y.

Anyone remember the word for the poetic device of splitting words peculiarly or changing syllabic emphasis for purpose of making lines rhyme, à la Ogden Nash (and Wordcrafters making double-dactyls)?

Why me, hab? hic's the guy who knows his G&S.

Part of what you mention was discussed here: "unwary necessary vary airy arbitrary Fairy vagary quandary chary library Seminary!"

The humor you describe is what my father used to call "putting the acCENT on the wrong sylLABle." I'm sure there's some fancy greek word for it. I'm even more sure that I haven't a clue what that word is!

BUTTERFLY ( or FLUTTERBY if you're a purist or a historian)

IRTPUNTER (that's the guy who kicks you off the New York City subway)

interrupt

DRABGOUDY

A Budd Orgy? Can't you bring better "beer" than that?

BODYGUARD

MACRITAGLAM

Grammatical

POENSMY

(Rule number whatever-you-like: if you're not making any progress, consider a vowel for the initial letter)

CRIMESTAN

I think that may be a tough one, so here are a few clues, which follow:

CAGNEEVEN

USURPES

ANEIGHT

RANCLOUD [= OR UNCLAD]

Arnie? Hic? Anybody? I didn't think it was that obscure.

I can't get it, but I did get the hints, so maybe I can help someone else:

RANCLOUD = cauldron

ANEIGHT = heating

USURPES = pursues

CAGNEEVEN = vengeance

Four out of four! Now if you read them in the order they were presented, you may see an additional hint.

(Or even just put the four of them into Google as is and feel lucky. I'm impressed!)

I had been trying all vowels for the first letter because of your "rule number whatever-you-like." Grrrr!

Miscreant

Okay, this one is going to be muy difícil! [An interesting word besides!]

OHKCRACOC

Sorry; the rule was a rueful observation about POEMSNY/EPONYMS. Everything ELSE in the post was a clue with double meaning, but not that!

prewittery

(Side question: find the connection. We only need to invoke one "degree of separation".)

[This message was edited by haberdasher on Mon Dec 15th, 2003 at 11:49.]