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July 03, 2012, 18:31
BobHale
Etymology Game: Avocado
As no one else has come up with one and I have just run across the unusual origin of this by accident, I thought I'd post a new game in the hope that I'll have enough computer access next week in England to continue it.

So - etymologies for AVOCADO by PM please.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 04, 2012, 02:07
arnie
Mine is in.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 04, 2012, 05:02
Geoff
As is mine. But then everybody knows that "avocado" means "lawyer" in Spanish, because it looks like a cojone, and it takes big ones to be a Spanish lawyer. Big Grin


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
July 04, 2012, 06:54
arnie
quote:
But then everybody knows that "avocado" means "lawyer" in Spanish, because it looks like a cojone, and it takes big ones to be a Spanish lawyer

You're supposed to send them in by PM! Mad


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 04, 2012, 08:54
BobHale
Don't let that put other people off though. This time I'll award additional points for creativity.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 05, 2012, 21:09
Kalleh
Mine, too, is in, though sans creativity.
July 06, 2012, 07:11
<Proofreader>
i wssn't going to enter this since I thought the correct def was "inadvertently" submitted. However, I've since learned that the Spanish word for "lawyer" is "abogado". Now if I'm ever sued in Spain, I won't look for an attorney in a fruitstand.
July 06, 2012, 11:22
arnie
Sorry if my post mislead anyone. Although maybe the derivation Geoff posted is the right one. Who knows? (Apart from Bob, anyway.)


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 07, 2012, 04:20
Geoff
Good grief! I thought it was obvious that I was being facetious! Confused


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
July 07, 2012, 05:57
<Proofreader>
quote:
I thought it was obvious that I was being facetious!

it only works if the person knows the language. No hablan Espanol.
July 07, 2012, 09:31
Geoff
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:

it only works if the person knows the language. No hablan Espanol.
Oh, sorry, PR. I assumed that you knew how to say, "I want to see my lawyer"in as many languages as I do!


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
July 07, 2012, 09:33
<Proofreader>
No, I just head for the nearest consulate and yell "Sanctuary!"
July 27, 2012, 03:20
bethree5
>bump<
July 27, 2012, 11:53
Geoff
Aye, bethree, I'd like to see some activity here too! Gotta do something to annoy arnie, after all! Big Grin


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
July 27, 2012, 21:09
Kalleh
I guess Bob is in England, and that is what is holding this game up. It held the limerick game up as well, though we took the bull by the horns and Richard started a new game. Bob should be back soon, I think. There must be a computer or two in England, right arnie?
July 28, 2012, 01:57
arnie
One or two, yes.

Bob's plan was to bum off friends when he got back. Maybe he's ended up sleeping on the streets.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 28, 2012, 03:19
BobHale
OK.
Might be a while before I can get back to you with the answer (see separate post) but here are the proposed etymologies that I have.

1. From the Spanish avocado, "lawyer". So-named because it was thought that eating the fruit made any falsehoods spoken more likely to be believed.
2. From Spanish, "speaking fruit," from the belief that avocados would cause one to not tell lies.
3. From the Nahuatl for "falling water"
4. Originally from “aguacate”, from Nahuatl ahuakatl "testicle." So called for its shape.
5. Spanish colonizers dubbed this native Mexican fruit, so heavy it seemed to fall from its tree upon request, 'avocado' (called for, summoned).
6. Queen Isabella was fabled to have pronounced 'each a perfect oval' when presented with this New World fruit, paraphrased as 'avocado', from 16th c. Castillian.
7. Avocado - From L. vocalis, meaning without voice because it self-pollinates in isolation by itself.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 28, 2012, 18:13
Kalleh
I have no idea. I'll select #4.
July 28, 2012, 18:50
<Proofreader>
#7
July 29, 2012, 09:39
Geoff
Now I can see why arnie was angry. I'll abstain and go self-flagellate.


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
July 29, 2012, 11:55
arnie
quote:
Now I can see why arnie was angry. I'll abstain and go self-flagellate

I wasn't really angry, but it's not impossible to hit a right answer by accident. That's why we should wait for the suggested etymologies to be posted before saying anything that could be construed as an answer.

There's no need for you to abstain, Geoff, but the self-flagellation is up to you.

I'll go for 4.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 29, 2012, 19:20
bethree5
#3
July 30, 2012, 04:29
zmježd
Number four.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
July 31, 2012, 11:13
<Proofreader>
WTGEE?*

*Will This Game Ever End?
July 31, 2012, 21:15
Kalleh
I hear you, Proof. We're all on pins and needles, Bob!
August 01, 2012, 01:53
BobHale
I am currently 5936.05 miles away from my apartment and my computer, relying on the kindness of friends to get computer access.

Cut me a little slack on the timings please.

The correct answer is, as you might suspect from arnie and zm's choices, number 4.

Others can out themselves as the proposers of other etymologies or wait for me to get the chance to do it later. (It may be much later.)

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"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
August 01, 2012, 02:13
arnie
My suggestion was No1, which fooled no-one. I can't remember now, but the true etymology might have been mentioned in QI; it certainly seemed familiar. As Stephen Fry has mentioned, QI does seem to rely on a lot of jokes regarding the lower parts of the body, so it would fit right in.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
August 01, 2012, 21:33
Kalleh
quote:
Cut me a little slack on the timings please.
Bob, we were just kidding. Sorry if we seemed pushy.

From my perspective, #4 was a guess. I think z and arnie just tagged along with me because they know my linguistic knowledge. Wink
August 02, 2012, 06:21
<Proofreader>
Apparently BobHale has less access to technology now that he's back in civilization than he did while in the Chinese hinterlands. Smile