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Favorite words?
August 09, 2002, 14:38
KallehFavorite words?
My old favorite word used to be
philtrum - meaning the groove in one's upper lip.
However, after surfing the Grandiloquent Dictionary online today, I have found a new favorite word:
Slubberdegullion - a boorish slob. I have known a lot of them!

August 09, 2002, 17:59
wildflowerchildit isn't a 5 dollar word, but i love it. some lips are luscious, men's lips, boys lips. when someone is in love, their lips swell up when they see that person, did you know that? as well as pupils dilating and skin blushing. i saw an old boyfriend a while back and i kept saying how he wasn't good looking anymore. that he seemed dried up, not ripe and luscious like he was. a friend pointed out that the problem is, he was so good looking because he was in love with me before.
August 09, 2002, 19:55
Hic et ubiquein Just-
spring when the world is
mud-
lusciouse. e. cummings (amazing how many webspages mistakenly capitalize his name)
August 10, 2002, 18:09
KallehYes,
luscious says it all!
Similarly, I have a favorite phrase that, to me, says it all. Folate deficiency in the diet results in the loss of papilla on the tongue -- which is called:
slick tongue. Love it!

My students see that one on their exams every time!
August 11, 2002, 02:45
arnieThis word pulls all sorts of threads together. It is a lovely, sonorous word in its own right. It comes from the Greek. It contains a diphthong -- even the American spelling is the same as the British.
It is used a lot in poetry and means the formation of words in imitation of sounds, like
buzz and
hiss.
Come to think of it,
sonorous is a nicely onomatopoetic word as well...
August 11, 2002, 16:30
wildflowerchildi have a kind of fetish for cleanness, scented soaps, fresh, ironed linens, polished silver, someone to pour tea, all the things butlers do. why can't a man be more like a butler? why can't a man be a gentleman in the living room, and servile everywhere else? (mocking the saying "i want a wife who's a lady in the living room, and a whore in the bedroom. i forget what she is in the kitchen, but why not a whore in the kitchen?) a man who will put my shoes on me in the morning. did you ever see "The Night Porter"? anyway, servile.
August 12, 2002, 08:49
wildflowerchildmy friend fuzzycat pointed out that what i want is not a butler but a valet. a servile valet. with a daytime job.⁄
August 12, 2002, 21:53
Morgan lustThe word evokes so many feelings....yearning, hunger, desire, passion, eroticism
It is such a powerful word!
August 19, 2002, 09:33
KallehIn "Apology", Socrates spoke called his accusers the
oligarchy of 30. How many institutions do we know that is run by an oligarchy? ie, a small group that exercises control for selfish or corrupt purposes.
Another is
caitiff -- despicable coward. Nice new insult for me to use!

August 19, 2002, 17:15
wildflowerchild"sir, you are a blackguard, a highwayman, and a cutpurse!"
when a guy disagrees with me, sometimes i say that to him. if he laughs, he's in.€
August 19, 2002, 17:16
wildflowerchildwhat the hell is that symbol above? has anyone noticed they're getting weirder?¨
August 19, 2002, 19:04
Morganquote:
what the hell is that symbol above? has anyone noticed they're getting weirder?¨
Wild, they are as unique as you are!

August 20, 2002, 08:54
arniequote:
what the hell is that symbol above?
wfc, it's the symbol for the Euro, the new European Community common currency. How it got there I have no idea.
August 20, 2002, 19:01
wildflowerchildit's a sign! i have to move back to europe.

August 20, 2002, 19:22
MorganYou go girl! (Not litterally

)
September 01, 2002, 22:47
KallehAs I was traveling today, I came up with 2 more of my favorite words.
Dazzling. I will always remember a compliment someone gave me once, "You have a
dazzling smile". What a charming word.
The other is
smarmy. I don't even think the AHD does this word justice, "hypocritically, complacently, or effusively earnest". We all know
smarmy when we see it--and it is more slippery than that definition, don't you agree? BTW, is there much of a difference between
smarmy and
unctuous?
September 02, 2002, 02:33
arnieI'm with you on this word. I wouldn't say there was any real difference between it and
unctuous. Possibly
smarmy is used more in common speech, whereas
unctuous is slightly more "literary", but there's not much in it. Another excellent synonym is
oleaginous.
Oily is another, though not such a fun word.

September 02, 2002, 09:44
Hic et ubique sapononaceous (= "soaplike") and oleaginous:
quote:
Disraeli once described the manner of Bishop Wilberforce as "unctuous, oleaginous, saponaceous." And the good prelate was ever afterward known as Soapy Sam. For every man there is something in the vocabulary that would stick to him like a second skin. His enemies have only to find it.
-- Ambrose Bierce; The Devil's Dictionary
September 02, 2002, 13:50
KallehThanks, guys! Two more excellent words that I have not heard of
oleaginous & saponaceous--and just before the November elections, too!

September 02, 2002, 17:24
wildflowerchildthank you for the butter and soap-like descriptions. i will now re-pigeonhole all appropriate a**holes into their oleo or soap categories. however, due to 2002 restrictions (see dealer), all garbage birds will remain garbage birds until further notice.
September 02, 2002, 18:48
Morganquote:
Thanks, guys! Two more excellent words that I have not heard of oleaginous & saponaceous--and just before the November elections, too!
Oh, please Kalleh! You are just lucky you don't have to listen to the gubernatorial crap in New York State this year!

September 04, 2002, 14:02
ThunderChickenI've been abusing this one for about a month now.
Solipsistic (adj.) : highly enamored of one's self.
My father and I have used "renoberate" as a catch-all verb for years. As far as I know, it has no meaning... which diminishes its usefulness not in the slightest.
TC.
September 07, 2002, 15:31
museamuseis one of my all-time favorite words. I love the way it trips off my tongue and its optimistic meaning is so
me!
September 07, 2002, 22:27
tinman[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hic et ubique:
sapononaceous (= "soaplike") and
oleaginous:
You've got one too many "on's" in there. Sapindaceae is the soapberry family; the type genus is
Sapindus.
Oleaceae is the olive family; the type genus is
Olea.
Oleaginus, meaning "falsely or smugly earnest; unctuous" (or "of or relating to oil"), ultimately derives from the Latin
oleaginous "of the olive tree" (olive oil).
Sapindaceous and oleaceous refer to the Sapindaceae and Oleaceae, respectively.
Source:
www.dictionary.comTinman

September 08, 2002, 02:03
Richard EnglishOne of my favourite words as well - and the Island of Serendip is one of my favourite places. Lovely scenery, huge variety, full of history, friendly people - and GOOD BEER!
One of the few places I'd consider leaving England for.
Richard English
September 08, 2002, 10:29
museamuseYes, Richard, as you probably know, but others may not, the word 'serendipity' was coined in 1754 by Horace Walpole, an English writer, connoisseur (of beer perhaps?) and MP after
The Three Princes of Serendip (Sri Lanka), a fairy tale. I've never been to Serendip, but methinks 'twould be quite serendipitous an occasion.
September 13, 2002, 14:41
Kallehquote:
One of my favourite words as well - and the Island of Serendip is one of my favourite places. Lovely scenery, huge variety, full of history, friendly people - and GOOD BEER!
Richard, your love for beer is amazing! I wonder--is there a word for beer-lover? I, too, love the word
serendipity.
I found a new one, more for the definition than for the sound of the word:
brevirostrate - Having a short nose; an antonym for
accipitrine? - having a nose like a hawk's beak
September 24, 2002, 21:17
Kalleh Discombobulated. I have always love that word! The local newspaper used it, describing the Chicago White Sox. In trying to find out more about it, the AHD says:
perhaps an alteration of discompose. Does anyone know anything more?
September 24, 2002, 21:58
tinmanquote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
Discombobulated
The Word Detective (
http://www.word-detective.com/070599.html#discombobulate) offers a little information.
Tinman
September 27, 2002, 09:19
KallehThanks, Tinman, I should have thought to use word detective! I did look it up in my Oxford's Etymology text, but it wasn't there.
September 28, 2002, 06:44
HarmonySurprise! I have always loved the words
hymnal and
rhythmic especially when playing word games such as "
Probe" where others have to guess your word in
hang-man fashion. I usually win with those!
Uh-oh

...it just occurred to me. If we ever get together and play word games, you will all know my words!

October 25, 2002, 21:32
Kallehquote:
My old favorite word used to be philtrum - meaning the groove in one's upper lip
Interestingly, I recently learned that "philtrum" is only found in Mrs. Byrne's Dictionary and in a reverse dictionary that is found online. It is
NOT found it OED. That leads me to ask the question: Is it a legitimate word then? What makes a word legitimate? If you find a word in some online weird word dictionary, is it a word?
October 27, 2002, 17:56
KallehI hate to answer my own question, but now I am wondering if perhaps "philtrum" is a medical term. Is it? I have never seen it used in medicine, but that would explain why it is not in OED. Since it was in Mrs. Byrne's dictionary, I thought it was a general term. However, maybe not.

October 28, 2002, 13:15
C J Strolin Mrs Byrne's Dictionary was the result of said woman's reading a wide variety of established dictionaries as a hobby. While this may sound like a sacrelige to our other-side-of-the-Atlantic friends, just because a word isn't in the OED doesn't mean it's not a "real" word. One has to decide on which sources to put one's faith in:
The OED, certainly.
Mrs. Byrne's Dictionary, yes.
Billy Bob's On-line Dictionary of English Like We Speak It, well, probably not.
Sidenote: "sacrelige"? "sacrelidge" another I instead of that first E, maybe?? I can't get that word to look right. Why is there no spell-check on this site, or am I missing something?
October 29, 2002, 03:01
arnieCJ,
If you'd learnt Latin you'd have known how to spell
sacrilege.

Michael Quinion, as always, has an excellent article at
World Wide Words on how words enter the language, and the part played by lexicographers.
October 29, 2002, 14:17
C J StrolinThanks Arnie, but had I learnt Latin I might not have had sufficient wetware storage area left over for the really important things in life such as the words to the "Gilligan's Island" theme song or the fact that the avacado was once known as an "alligator pear."
To re-ask the question, though,
is there a way to spell-check postings here? To anyone who might reply, please keep in mind that I am one of millions who are not as computer savvy as I probably need to be so if you answer something along the lines of "Cut & paste your posting to cross-cyberformat your motherboard netdot modem and then just HTMLize the transpost to the F3 home format," I probably just go on my merry way and continue to commit the occasional misspelling.
And that, of course, would be a sacralige...
October 29, 2002, 14:56
KallehMe, too, CJ (I have also wondered if there is a spell-checker on wordcraft). Please forgive us Arnie. And, I did take Latin!
Arnie, thanks a lot for that wonderful link. I had been asking that question for a long time now, and that is the first really cogent answer that I have gotten.
A colleague, who learned the word
philtrum in medical school, said that she thinks the reason
philtrum isn't in OED is because it is a medical term. Of course, OED will not include all medical, or other technical, terms. I never thought of
philtrum as a medical term because I have only seen it generally used. However, she could be right.
October 29, 2002, 16:03
shufitz I have a little philtrum,
Wherein my spilltrum flows
When I am feeling illtrum,
And running at the nose.October 30, 2002, 23:39
tinmanquote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
quote:
My old favorite word used to be philtrum - meaning the groove in one's upper lip.
Is it a legitimate word then?
Yes,
philtrum (plural,
philtra) is a legitimate word, derived from the Greek
philtron, meaning “love charm”. Here are some sites that will tell you more than you wanted to know. Did you know a long flat philtrum is characteristic of fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS)?
http://www.cadvision.com/380704/philtrumPage.htmlhttp://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_078a.htmlhttp://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?query=philtrum&action=Search+OMDhttp://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/Art.asp?li=MNI&ArticleKey=4871http://www.icflorida.com/shared/health/adam/ency/imagepage/9012.003302.htmlhttp://depts.washington.edu/fasdpn/lipguide.htmlTinman
December 03, 2002, 14:42
KallehOh, Tinman, this thread sunk so far that I missed these wonderful links. I especially like the last one with the pictures. Thanks!

Another favorite word came up in my conversation today--"drivel". "All they talk about in our Board meetings is 'drivel'"!
December 04, 2002, 10:35
Richard EnglishQuote.
"...All they talk about in our Board meetings is 'drivel'"!..."
Tell the Chair that if they keep proper minutes they'll save hours. Nobody likes to have his or her drivel minuted!
Richard English
December 11, 2002, 09:29
KallehInteresting that you should say that, Richard, because the minutes from three 8-hour meetings comprise only a few pages.

January 01, 2003, 11:14
MorganThe other day I heard one of my favorite phrases, and I wanted to share it with you!
You warm the cockles of my heart!

January 03, 2003, 19:32
shufitzquote:
Nobody likes to have his or her drivel minuted!
Richard English
Verbifying! Jolly good! Compandre, I will office with you any time.
January 04, 2003, 03:24
Richard EnglishQuote: "Committee - a group of men who keep minutes and waste hours"
Variously attributed to Will Rogers and Milton Berle.
To which I would add, "Good minutes save hours"
Richard English
January 04, 2003, 07:21
shufitz"Committee - a group of men who keep minutes and waste hours"
"Football features two of the worst parts of American life -- violence punctuated by committee meetings."
--George F. Will
(Perhaps Will said this;
perhaps it is an anonymous modification of Will's original line.
January 13, 2003, 09:08
KallehThis is a new favorite word for me because of its meaning, rather than how it sounds. Its etymology is:
Middle English emperiall, from Medieval Latin empyreus, from Late Latin empyrius, fiery, from Greek empuriosIt means:
The highest heaven, where the pure element of fire was supposed by the ancients to subsist; heaven; paradise"She might have been an angel arguing a point in the
empyrean if she hadn't been, so completely, a woman.
--Edith Wharton, "The Long Run," The Atlantic, Feburary 1912" - From Dictionary.com word of the day (Nov. 11, 2001)
January 14, 2003, 05:13
museamuseIs another one of my favorites. An old beau described me as this once and I had to go look it up!
January 14, 2003, 05:31
Richard EnglishMaybe she actually meant that you were "awful" and didn't realise that this word has other similes than numinous!
Richard English
January 14, 2003, 07:35
KallehMuse, what a fabulous word. I hadn't heard of it either. I put it into Onelook and found it to mean "mysterious, sublime, supernatural, or appealing to the higher emotions or to the aesthetic sense". I guess he was referring to the latter definition? Or to "mysterious"? The example that 2 sites gave for using it in a sentence was: "a numinous wood". Now that doesn't make sense to me, unless they meant "woods".