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July 05, 2005, 04:29
BobHaleWhat's that word?
A report in todays newspaper about the NASAprobe that has been intentionally crashed into a comet contains the following
"Russian astrologist Marina Bai was not so happy. She is suing Nasa for £150million."
Apparently the change to the comets course has messed up all her astrological charts and distorted her horoscopes.
Disregarding the ludicrous nature of the claim wha the hell is an "astrologist", is it the same as an astrologer or something different?
Or is it, as is more likely given the source (the Metro, a free rag of dubious merits), just a fourteen year old spotty oik of a journalist who has got it wrong?
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 05, 2005, 10:34
arnieIt's certainly not a word I'd use, but
OneLook does find the word in four online dictionaries as a synonym for
astrologer.
One wonders why she did not forsee the problem and recast her horoscopes and charts in advance.

Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 05, 2005, 11:34
Hic et ubiqueThe
Moscow News used "astrologist" in reporting this story last April. My guess is that it reflects the authoress's deficient command of English, and was uncritically picked up by the report Bob cites.
Interestingly, though, there's a defect in Google here. Searching
Google news for astrologist gives 48 hits, but searching it for
astrologist "Marina Bai" yields
more, not fewer: 147. But then, when you check the latter hits, you find that many of them do
not use the word "astrologist"; they say "astrologer".
July 06, 2005, 06:27
Graham Nicequote:
OneLook does find the word in four online dictionaries as a synonym for
astrologer.
Does it also have thickie, fraud and idiot as synonyms?
July 06, 2005, 08:40
BobHaleThanks for the link hic. The grounds for her law suit are hilarious. Now, hands up anyone whose psyche has been disrupted causing feelings of anxiety!
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 06, 2005, 12:19
shufitzAgreed, Bob. I was rolling with laughter.
OED is interesting here. It define
astrologist as "
ASTROLOGER (though less frequent and not the preferred term amongst practitioners)." But from the quotes, I'd say a better definition is "a contemptuous term for an astrologer" -- and if so, the journalist chose her term well! One of the four quotes is neutral, but here are the other three:
- 1954 Life: Carroll Righter is a Hollywood astrologer or, as he prefers to be called, an astrologian. He detests being called an astrologist. ‘An astrologist is a quack,’ he says.
(Shufitz note: Talk about your pot calling your kettle black!) - 1978 Economist: ... he is thought to have been the illegitimate son of an itinerant astrologist.
- 1985 Washington Post: I side pretty steadily with history's eccentrics. ‘I don't mean all the mad astrologists and mystics..but simply the mundane eccentrics.’
July 06, 2005, 12:27
BobHalequote:
... he is thought to have been the illegitimate son of an itinerant astrologist.
What a great insult. I shall use it at the earliest opportunity.
You sir, are the illigitimate son of an itinerant astrologist.
Marvelous!
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 13, 2005, 21:06
<Asa Lovejoy>Hmmmm... Sounds to me that he was scattering more than stardust!
July 13, 2005, 21:16
SeanahanYou see, Astrology is the combination of Astronomy and Cosmology, and since Astronomer and Cosmologist are the correct terms, either Astrologer or Astrologist should be allowed...
What's the classic joke? On the first day of Astronomy class, a student asks what the difference between Astronomy and Astrology is, and the professor answers "Math", to which most of the class walks out.
July 13, 2005, 21:17
SeanahanMan, I butchered that joke/anecdote, whatever it was.
July 13, 2005, 22:02
Hic et ubiqueI thought it was pretty good!
(now the grape, on the other hand ...

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