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July 05, 2005, 04:29
BobHale
What's that word?
A report in todays newspaper about the NASAprobe that has been intentionally crashed into a comet contains the following

"Russian astrologist Marina Bai was not so happy. She is suing Nasa for £150million."

Apparently the change to the comets course has messed up all her astrological charts and distorted her horoscopes.

Disregarding the ludicrous nature of the claim wha the hell is an "astrologist", is it the same as an astrologer or something different?
Or is it, as is more likely given the source (the Metro, a free rag of dubious merits), just a fourteen year old spotty oik of a journalist who has got it wrong?


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 05, 2005, 10:34
arnie
It's certainly not a word I'd use, but OneLook does find the word in four online dictionaries as a synonym for astrologer.

One wonders why she did not forsee the problem and recast her horoscopes and charts in advance. Big Grin


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 05, 2005, 11:34
Hic et ubique
The Moscow News used "astrologist" in reporting this story last April. My guess is that it reflects the authoress's deficient command of English, and was uncritically picked up by the report Bob cites.

Interestingly, though, there's a defect in Google here. Searching Google news for astrologist gives 48 hits, but searching it for astrologist "Marina Bai" yields more, not fewer: 147. But then, when you check the latter hits, you find that many of them do not use the word "astrologist"; they say "astrologer".
July 06, 2005, 06:27
Graham Nice
quote:
OneLook does find the word in four online dictionaries as a synonym for astrologer.


Does it also have thickie, fraud and idiot as synonyms?
July 06, 2005, 08:40
BobHale
Thanks for the link hic. The grounds for her law suit are hilarious. Now, hands up anyone whose psyche has been disrupted causing feelings of anxiety!


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 06, 2005, 12:19
shufitz
Agreed, Bob. I was rolling with laughter.

OED is interesting here. It define astrologist as "ASTROLOGER (though less frequent and not the preferred term amongst practitioners)." But from the quotes, I'd say a better definition is "a contemptuous term for an astrologer" -- and if so, the journalist chose her term well! One of the four quotes is neutral, but here are the other three:
July 06, 2005, 12:27
BobHale
quote:
... he is thought to have been the illegitimate son of an itinerant astrologist.


What a great insult. I shall use it at the earliest opportunity.

You sir, are the illigitimate son of an itinerant astrologist.

Marvelous!


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 13, 2005, 21:06
<Asa Lovejoy>
Hmmmm... Sounds to me that he was scattering more than stardust!
July 13, 2005, 21:16
Seanahan
You see, Astrology is the combination of Astronomy and Cosmology, and since Astronomer and Cosmologist are the correct terms, either Astrologer or Astrologist should be allowed...

What's the classic joke? On the first day of Astronomy class, a student asks what the difference between Astronomy and Astrology is, and the professor answers "Math", to which most of the class walks out.
July 13, 2005, 21:17
Seanahan
Man, I butchered that joke/anecdote, whatever it was.
July 13, 2005, 22:02
Hic et ubique
I thought it was pretty good!

(now the grape, on the other hand ... Big Grin )