October 08, 2009, 05:37
zmježdpeeve, the etymology
The other thread got me to wondering about the etymology of
peeve. It's a back-formation from
peevish < Middle English
peivish (
MED). All sources offered the dread unknown, but offered a perhaps from Latin
perversus. I found that fitting: Latin
perversus 'awkward, askew' is the past passive participle of
perverto,
pervertere, 'to turn around or about; overthrow, subvert'. So,
peevologists, in their perversity, are trying to overthrow and subvert the language. (Hey, if the etymological fallacy works for
decimate and
unique, why not for other Latin words?)
October 08, 2009, 06:47
arnieI see the ME version of
peevish meant "Perverse, wayward, willful, capricious", which is a slight change from the current most common meaning of "mildly irratated".
Even then the peevish types were egregious.

October 08, 2009, 21:12
KallehVery interesting, z. I have to say...I love the word
peevologist for a true prescriptivist.
Do we have one for a true descriptivist?
October 09, 2009, 04:32
zmježd Do we have one for a true descriptivist?Normal, sane, or rationale? For the peevologist straw-man version of a descriptivist there are some terms, my favorite of which is
laxicographer.
October 09, 2009, 19:44
KallehI am trying to figure out what you mean by the "peevologist straw-man version of a descriptivist." I do like "laxicographer, though.

October 09, 2009, 20:10
goofyquote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
I am trying to figure out what you mean by the "peevologist straw-man version of a descriptivist."
For instance some peevologists argue that descriptive linguists think anything goes in terms of language; that if someone says it, it's automatically correct. This is a straw man argument. I don't know anyone who actually holds this view (altho they might exist, they don't write books, blogs or newspaper columns).