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March 29, 2011, 08:28
Guy BarryIn Northern Ireland the "aitch"/"haitch" distinction is used as a shibboleth to determine which community you're from: Protestants tend to use "aitch", Catholics "haitch". If you view the sketch in this light it takes on rather more sinister undertones.
March 29, 2011, 11:40
goofyI can hardly watch this. I guess this sort of hyperbolic reaction to usage is one of my pet peeves.
March 29, 2011, 14:26
BobHaleOne of my favourite sketches!
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
March 29, 2011, 19:57
KallehI suppose I am being too American in saying this, but it's just too violent to me. I think they could have made their point in a different way. The
concept is funny, but carrying it out was a bit over the top...for me, a coddled American.
March 30, 2011, 02:36
BobHaleI think the opposite may actually be true.
I think it's probably less funny to Americans because it's perfectly conceivable in the US that a manager could own a gun and might go crazy and take it to the office and shoot people.
In the UK almost no honest citizen owns a gun and its very difficult to come by one legally. The basic scenario of the sketch is much more far-fetched to me than it is to you and so I can laugh at it as being thoroughly ridiculous whereas for you it isn't ridiculous enough.
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
March 30, 2011, 12:54
arniequote:
n Northern Ireland the "aitch"/"haitch" distinction is used as a shibboleth
There's a similar, but non-verbal, shibboleth also used over there. When using a spade (to dig potatoes, I assume) a Catholic will rest his/her left foot on the blade whereas a Protestant will use the right foot. Or perhaps it's the other way round ...
Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
March 31, 2011, 21:23
Kallehquote:
I think it's probably less funny to Americans because it's perfectly conceivable in the US that a manager could own a gun and might go crazy and take it to the office and shoot people.
We're a sorry lot, Bob, but not that sorry!
[Now someone will probably post a scenario just like that to prove me wrong.]
April 01, 2011, 01:18
BobHaleI don't see it. I think an inevitable consequence of everyone being allowed to own a gun is that some people will use them. I'm not trying to make some deep social comment here and we've had our own share of spree-killers over here but if a schoolboy can take a gun into a classroom and start killing people (which has certainly happened) then I don't see why a manager can't.
Here the scenario is MUCH more far-fetched simply because it would be almost impossible, for example, for me to legally get hold of a handgun.
I find the sketch to be so ludicrously unlikely that it's funny. If I thought there was any possibility of a manager shooting his employees (not for bad grammar but for any reason) I probably wouldn't think it quite so funny.
It's just a theory.
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
April 01, 2011, 02:12
BobHaleAnd of course proof, as if proof were needed, can be found
here at none other than the august Language Log. And if it's in Language Log you can count on it being true almost every day of the year.
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
April 01, 2011, 09:26
arnieThe actual wording on Language Log:
quote:
Language Log reveals the hard, plain truth about language, 24/7, 364 days a year.
There are 365 days in a year. Is the missing day 1 April, by any chance?

Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
April 01, 2011, 09:31
BobHaleWell I did say you can count on it
almost every day of the year.
"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
April 09, 2011, 20:36
Kallehquote:
(There are darker rumors about him having once shot a man in Reno just for using lay not lie.)
I thought Tinman would prove me wrong, but instead it was Language Log.

April 10, 2011, 02:16
tinmanquote:
... shot a man in Reno just for using lay not lie.
That sounds like a Johnny Cash song.