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July 20, 2005, 09:27
BobHale
Bostin'
A campaign is afoot to have that fine Black Country word "bostin'" added to the OED. My local paper promises details of how to join the campaign tomorrow. I expect everyone's support in this.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 20, 2005, 11:40
tinman
Never heard of it. OneLook shows it listed in only one dictionary: "Adj. Great, good, enjoyable. E.g."She had a bostin figure." [W. Midlands use]."

Tinman
July 20, 2005, 12:56
BobHale
quote:
Originally posted by tinman:
Never heard of it. OneLook shows it listed in only one dictionary: "Adj. Great, good, enjoyable. E.g."She had a bostin figure." [W. Midlands use]."

Tinman


In my part of the world (actually in my very small part of the world) it's an all purpose adjective of approval. It's a bit like the teen slang "wicked" or whatever the modern equivalent is.

It's heard a lot. A friend of mine had his descriptions of everything down to just two words "bostin" and "b*ll*cks".

(I'm not being coy or sensitive with the asterisks I'm just trying to anticpate and circumvent the problems I'll be having for the next three weeks at Harrow. They have an unusually aggressive cyber nanny system that often locks me out of wordcraft for the summer.)


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 20, 2005, 13:57
zmježd
From the Black Country pronunciation of bursting. That makes it a cousin of cussing / cursing.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
July 20, 2005, 15:11
Kalleh
I've never heard of it, either. Is it used in the rest of England, too?
July 20, 2005, 16:05
arnie
quote:
Is it used in the rest of England, too?

No. Black Country only.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 21, 2005, 10:10
BobHale
You can sign the petition to get "bostin'" included in the OED here.
UK members can also get a free T-shirt.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 21, 2005, 13:49
Caterwauller
Bob
- Where and what is Harrow, and why do you Summer there? I see it's a county and a school when I google it.

- What is Black Country, and why do you call it that?

- How did bostin' come to have this meaning?

- Why can't I get a t-shirt, too?

- What is Owamya?

permanently perplexed,
CW


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July 21, 2005, 16:11
BobHale
quote:
Originally posted by Caterwauller:
Bob
- Where and what is Harrow, and why do you Summer there? I see it's a county and a school when I google it.

- What is Black Country, and why do you call it that?

- How did bostin' come to have this meaning?

- Why can't I get a t-shirt, too?

- What is Owamya?

permanently perplexed,
CW


1. It's a town in England (North London) that is famous for its boys' school where I teach Summer School.

2. It's the industrial midlands, so called because of the cloud of black smoke that allegedly covered the region in its industrial heyday although more likely because of a number of paintings done in the last century depicting it thus.

3. As a corruption of the word "bursting".

4. Dunno. Try. They might send you one.

5. Black country talk for "How are you?"

permanently helpful
Bob

PS. Trarabit means "Goodbye for now".

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"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 22, 2005, 09:08
Cat
You can also say something has bost if it's broken, in the same way others might say "it's bust".

I'll join the campaign Big Grin.
July 22, 2005, 22:21
<Asa Lovejoy>
quote:
They have an unusually aggressive cyber nanny


Are you sure that's not "cyber NINNY?"
July 23, 2005, 01:33
Caterwauller
quote:
permanently helpful
Bob

PS. Trarabit means "Goodbye for now".


You really ARE permanently helpful! Thanks! I was going to ask about Trarabit, too . . . but thought I'd perhaps reached my limit of stupid questions. Thinking now that perhaps I haven't, how do you pronounce Trarabit? Owamya I can figure out.


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"Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.
~Dalai Lama
July 23, 2005, 08:48
BobHale
Trar-a-bit

with the first a long (as in say "ah" and the second short as in hat or sometimes just a schwa)


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 24, 2005, 03:27
Caterwauller
Thanks, Bob! Can anyone give me a brief etymology of this phrase/word?


*******
"Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.
~Dalai Lama
July 24, 2005, 17:11
tinman
quote:
Trarabit


I don't know, but I'm guessing it's related to " tata " or "tata for now."

Tinman
July 25, 2005, 03:55
arnie
Quite right, Tinman. It's 'ta-ta for a bit', or 'bye for a while'. Smile


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
August 15, 2005, 05:28
Caterwauller
How did it morph from Ta-Ta to Trar?


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"Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.
~Dalai Lama
August 15, 2005, 11:35
Cat
Just keep saying 'ta-ta' really quickly until the sound merge into each other. Think of it as 't@rar', with @ being a schwa.
October 10, 2012, 09:07
Ed
"bostin" is curious. "bosten" is a deprecation in Wyclif, as it means boastful.
In Black Country it seems to have the same sense as old German and "brossen" in Cumbrian, ie. bursting.
Several of your bloggers correctly use the phrase "bostin wench". As this means buxom, its etymology is obvious!
D. Wilson in 1974 thought buxom was the sense in that time, and it came to mean excellent by generalisation.

Ed Conduit, author of "The Black Country Dialect"
October 10, 2012, 21:08
Kalleh
Our Bob is from the Black Country, too.
October 10, 2012, 23:52
tinman
"Our Bob," huh?
October 11, 2012, 05:32
Geoff
As opposed to these Bobs, perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bobs

In the 1960s there was a similar expression, though unrelated, in the USA, "bitchin'." It
meant the same as bostin'.


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
October 11, 2012, 20:42
Kalleh
Ah, yes, Tinman, our Bob Hale. Unfortunately he is in China now and posting isn't as regular as it used to be.