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April 13, 2014, 17:11
Geoff
Who has one?
http://www.powells.com/review/2004_10_17
April 14, 2014, 20:08
Kalleh
Geoff, that sounds excellent. We do not have it.

They used a phrase that I haven't heard kaleyard view, have you?
April 15, 2014, 01:22
arnie
Kaleyard is Scots for a vegetable garden (literally, a cabbage garden). I'm not clear why it's used here - perhaps it's a Scottish idiom, although a search for "Kaleyard view" doesn't bring up any useful hits. Perhaps it means that the sort of people who own a kaleyard (middle and upper working class). The sentence is complaining that a couple of Scots words describing lower class life are missing. A ned from the tenements will have no access to, or interest in, a kaleyard.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
April 15, 2014, 03:53
Geoff
In the USA, kale is a specific vegetable, not cabbage. I guess the Scots word morphed.
April 15, 2014, 19:21
tinman
Both cabbage and kale belong to the species Brassica oleracea.

From Dr. T. Ombrello - UCC Biology Department Union County College, Cranford New Jersey:

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All of the following are members of Brassica oleracea:

Cabbage, Kale, Brussels Sprouts, Broccoli, Kohlrabi, and Cauliflower. As different as these plants are from each other, they are just variations of the same basic form. For example, a head of cabbage is really a large terminal bud at the end of a stem, while Brussels sprouts are really side or axillary buds on a stem without a large terminal bud. Recent DNA studies have confirmed the close relationship amongst these plants, and support the plant taxonomists who have classified all these types as varieties of the same species. There are some practical applications for this knowledge of plant taxonomy. If a family member will not even try eating brussels sprouts, but enjoys cabbage or another member of this group, you can tell them with an air of authority that they are really the same species. You might even try to convince someone that kohlrabi is just another type of broccoli.

April 16, 2014, 09:19
zmježd
kale

I assume that kale is cognate with German Kohl 'cabbage' (which word also shows up as a loan in the first half of coleslaw).

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Ceci n'est pas un seing.
April 16, 2014, 21:21
Kalleh
And suddenly kale has become hugely popular, with kale chips, salads, and even desserts.