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April 22, 2008, 06:53
wordcrafter
Mistaken Science
Surprisingly many ordinary words are rooted in the mistaken science of our predecessors. We’ll sample those words this week, beginning with one from last week’s The Physician.

cataract
1. a large waterfall [from Greek for ‘down-rushing’]
2. a medical condition in which the eye’s lens becomes progressively opaque, causing blurred visionBy the way, OED doesn’t share Al-Juzjani’s etymology. An obsolete meaning of cataract is “portcullis” (strong bars making a grating that descends to block the entrance to a castle). OED says the optical sense of cataract is “apparently a figurative use of the sense “portcullis”.
April 22, 2008, 20:25
wordcrafter
A certain snake was once believed to bear its young alive, rather than from eggs. Hence it was named from vivus "alive, living" (akin to ‘vital’) + parere "bring forth, bear".

viper1. a poisonous snake with large hinged fangs 2. a spiteful or treacherous person

In the second sense, usually used in the plural, as in our quote.
April 22, 2008, 20:48
neveu
quote:
A certain snake was once believed to bear its young alive, rather than from eggs

Some snakes do bear live young, though.
April 22, 2008, 23:24
Richard English
Quite true. Of course, all animals bring forth their young from eggs - it's just a question of when the eggs hatch. In the case of mammals this takes place at a very early stage, in utero, but eggs there certainly are.

Of course, it is rumoured that snakes nearly became extinct after the Flood. You see, they were adders and found it hard to multiply Wink


Richard English
April 23, 2008, 04:18
arnie
quote:
Some snakes do bear live young, though.

In fact, according to Wikipedia
quote:
Most [vipers] are ovoviviparous, giving birth to live young, but a few lay eggs
(My bolding.)


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
April 23, 2008, 11:23
neveu
quote:
all animals bring forth their young from eggs - it's just a question of when the eggs hatch

I think you are using "egg" in two different senses here. There are egg cells, or ova, which are unfertilized. And there are eggs, which are containers for developing embryos. An egg hatches when a viable organism emerges from it.
I believe that most non-mammals that bear live young actually hold developing eggs inside their bodies until they hatch. I don't think there is any point in the developmental cycle of a placental mammal where it makes sense to speak of an egg "hatching".
April 23, 2008, 20:37
wordcrafter
remora – a certain fish, with a sucking disk it uses to attach itself to a ship or to a shark, whale, etc.
[The ancients believed the fish would retard a ship to which it was attached. Hence the name: re- “back” + mora "delay" (as in “moratorium”).]
April 24, 2008, 18:53
wordcrafter
It was once thought you could put a person into stupor by pressing on either of a certain pair of arteries. Accordingly, the plural of the Greek word for ‘drowsiness, stupor’ was used to give a name of those arteries. That Greek plural-word is karotides.

carotid – relating to the two large arteries carrying blood to the head and neck
April 24, 2008, 19:07
Kalleh
Well, if you totally occluded both carotid arteries, you'd put someone into a stupor. Those are the arteries that feed the brain.

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April 25, 2008, 07:20
pearce
quote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
Well, if you occluded the carotid artery, believe me, you'd put someone into a stupor. Those are the arteries that feed the brain.


No K. In many patients a carotid occlusion causes no impairment of consciousness, and in some not even a substantial neurological deficit. Totally asymptomatic occlusion of one carotid is not rare. It all depends on the adequacy of the flow through the other three major vessels and of their anastomoses.
April 25, 2008, 18:47
Kalleh
What about total carotid occlusion of both carotid arteries? I realize that's very rare, but I have seen it happen and each time the patient was comatose.
April 26, 2008, 08:52
wordcrafter
Today’s word comes from Greek aither ‘upper air’. In ancient and medieval times it meant the element that supposedly filled celestial space above beyond the moon. From about 1700 to 1900 it meant, in physics, a supposed all-pervading medium through which light and other electromagnetic waves traveled. Today this word has two air-senses (in addition to chemical ones).

ether1. literary: the clear sky; the upper regions of air (adj. etheric) 2. the internet [not in dictionaries, but see quote]
Derivative: Ethernet – the dominant system for connecting computers into a local area network (trademark, but sometimes used generically)
April 26, 2008, 09:46
pearce
quote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
What about total carotid occlusion of both carotid arteries? I realize that's very rare, but I have seen it happen and each time the patient was comatose.

Agreed, but as you say, uncommon. There is report of a case with 90% stenosis of RICA was asymptomatic and total occlusion of LICA that resulted in a minor infarction in left basal ganglia with only minimal sensory symptoms. link And more than one earlier report link2
Apologies: This is getting almost as technical and acronym laden as some of the linguistic threads.

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April 26, 2008, 11:22
neveu
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What about total carotid occlusion of both carotid arteries? I realize that's very rare

The LAPD begs to differ.
April 27, 2008, 07:32
wordcrafter
toadstool – an umbrella-shaped mushroom, typically a poisonous or inedible one
Toads were believed to be highly poisonous, but the word-authorities are coy about whether that belief led to the ‘toadstool’ name. As to the ‘stool’ part, I wish I could report that it refers to ‘stool = feces’, so that a ‘toadstool’ would be what grows from the droppings of the poisonous little beastie. Alas, the ‘stool’ seems to come from ‘stool = a seat’.

A poem by Oliver Herford:A question for readers: According to OED, ‘toad’ comes from a similar Old English term, which is ‘of unknown origin’. But in German, ‘tod’ apparently means ‘death’. Could our ‘toad’, thought to be poisonous, have been named from this German death-word?
April 28, 2008, 08:36
wordcrafter
A certain gland was thought to channel mucus to the nose. Therefore, in roughly 1615, it was named from the Latin for (as OED puts it) ‘glutinous mucus; phlegm’. Only later was it found that this gland is in fact the “master gland” that directs other glands. But the old name, from Latin pituita, has stuck.

pituitary gland – a small gland, at the base of the brain, whose secretions of which control the other endocrine glands
pituitary1. relating to the pituitary gland 2. of or secreting phlegm or mucus

The broad function of the gland can cause medical confusion.A personal note: When I started to prepare this theme I expected difficulty in finding as many as seven words. To my surprise there are far more than seven; the difficulty was that so many are extremely common, everyday words: protein; leopard; hysteria; vitamin; oxygen; atom; lunacy; mammoth; disaster. Perhaps we’ll return to this theme in some future week.
April 28, 2008, 08:47
arnie
quote:
Could our ‘toad’, thought to be poisonous, have been named from this German death-word?

Anatoly Liberman's book, "An Analytic Dictionary of English Etymology: An Introduction" is mentioned in this thread. One of the words he deals with is 'toad'. Why not spring for a copy, wordcrafter? Smile


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
April 28, 2008, 19:35
goofy
quote:
Originally posted by wordcrafter:
A question for readers: According to OED, ‘toad’ comes from a similar Old English term, which is ‘of unknown origin’. But in German, ‘tod’ apparently means ‘death’. Could our ‘toad’, thought to be poisonous, have been named from this German death-word?


Why would the spelling change - that is, where did the a come from?
April 29, 2008, 07:33
zmježd
‘toad’

The A-H dictionary gives Middle English and Old English versions of the word: tāde, tādige. An Old English dictionary I consulted (link) says the words are listed in some Old and Middle English vocabularies. Google Books has an edition of the book. In the 10th century MS of Alfric's vocabulary (link) Latin buffo [sic] is glossed {i]tadige[/i]; in a 15th century MS of archaic words (link) Latin bufo is glossed tade. A German borrowing would have to predate the 10th century. I think it unlikely. German tot is cognate with English dead; German Tod with English death.

[Fixed link.]

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April 30, 2008, 09:27
pearce
quote:
Originally posted by neveu:
quote:
What about total carotid occlusion of both carotid arteries? I realize that's very rare

The LAPD begs to differ.


I was referring to naturally occurring disease, not to the methods of arrest of the Los Angeles Police Department Chokehold Deaths, 1975-1982.
They describe:
quote:
An officer applied the "carotid" control by reaching one arm around the suspect's neck, placing his elbow around the front of the neck, grasping that arm's hand with his other hand, and pressing inward. The desired effect was to close the carotid arteries on both sides of the neck so that no oxygenated blood got to the suspect's brain.

April 30, 2008, 10:42
neveu
quote:
I was referring to naturally occurring disease

I know (actually it was Kalleh I quoted). Unnaturally occurring occlusion is much more common, and quite effective.