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Signs of the times
July 27, 2003, 19:36
wordcrafterSigns of the times
Most of us know that the symbols
! ? * and
& are called:
! - exclamation point
? - question mark
* - asterisk
& - ampersand
This week we'll consider such symbols that have more obscure names.
pilcrow - the ¶ sign
[This message was edited by wordcrafter on Sun Jul 27th, 2003 at 19:46.]
July 27, 2003, 23:05
arniequote:
! - exclamation point
We Brits call it an exclamation
mark.

July 28, 2003, 01:39
Richard EnglishI was unable to get onto the site yesterday otherwise I'd have made the same point. And, just to forestall another difficulty, I would also point out that the have no "periods" in UK English punctuation.
The mark is, and will always be, a "full stop".
Richard English
July 28, 2003, 17:23
the_bearActually, they're correctly referred to in typesetting as full points and exclamation points.
The question mark retains its name.
It's funny, actually, because footnotes are most usually, when they're not being numbered, indexed using the asterisk, the dagger [†] and the double dagger [‡], though many Dutch publishers don't like the dagger, because it reminds them of mortality.
Like many people from the US, I believe, they'll deform a sentence into a total mess just to avoid saying "He died," preferring, as they do to say "passed over".
Other marks are, of course the en-dash, used to separate figures in a range, e.g. "pages 3–25" and the em-dash, originally properly only used parenthetically "he was — for his time — very long-lived".
Another one is, of course, the ellipsis, which is often used with a superfluous full point when used to end a sentence: "I'm very sleee…"
[This message was edited by the_bear on Mon Jul 28th, 2003 at 17:31.]
July 28, 2003, 20:23
wordcrafter virgule – the
/ sign
also known as the
diagonal, the
separatrix, the
slant, the
slash, and the
solidusA question for our readers:
What is the proper name of the
@ sign?
I've not been able to find any clear answer.
A thread has been started to collect our thoughts.
[This message was edited by wordcrafter on Mon Jul 28th, 2003 at 20:32.]
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If you listen to Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen giving web addresses, he calls it a "stroke". Whether this is because he doesn't like "slash" which seems to be the norm when giving web addresses, or just whether he's trying to sound overly cultured, is a moot point...
For those unfamiliar with LLB, this is his
Official Web Site!!!July 29, 2003, 11:36
arnieBefore the days of the Web I called it a "stroke" as well, on the rare occasions when I needed to refer to it.
I remember back in the early '80s we used a very early version of the computer and I had to call the engineer for help. He told me to enter "C back-slash..." and I didn't know what he was talking about.
July 29, 2003, 19:36
<Asa Lovejoy>He told me to enter "C back-slash..." and I didn't
know what he was talking about.
___________________________________________
I would have assumed that he wanted you to kill someone. Considering how unwieldy non-Apple computers were in the DOS only days, it seemed a logical conclusion.
July 29, 2003, 21:49
wordcrafter macron - the horizontal mark indicating the long pronunciation of a vowel, as in
ābreve - the curved mark indicating the short pronunciation of a vowel, as in
ădiacritical mark - a mark added to a letter to indicate a special pronunciation.
One source indicates that the macron and breve are called
quantity marks.
July 31, 2003, 09:34
wordcrafter octothorpe – the
# sign, as on the telephone
Etymology: Notwithstanding AHD's speculation,
World Wide Words cites the most likely origin. Ralph Carlsen of Bell Laboratories records that in the early 1960s Bell Labs introduced the # on new touch-tone telephone handsets. Since the symbol had many names, Bell Labs engineer Don Macpherson felt the need for a fresh and unambiguous name when explaining the new phones to corporate users. MacPherson invented "octothorpe" from
octo (Latin for "eight") for the symbol's eight points, and added
thorpe to the end because he was active active in a group that was trying to get the Olympic medals of the athlete Jim Thorpe returned from Sweden.
That's a rather good word! I can just imagine it now...
Recorded message: "Welcome to A N Y Company. If you have a touch tone phone, please press the octothorpe key now."
Caller: "Eh? What?"

August 01, 2003, 07:21
wordcrafter guillemets - the marks
« and
»Guillemets are used in some languages, such as French and Russian, to mark the beginning and end of a quotation.
From the French name
Guillaume = William. According to Robert Bringhurst's
The Elements of Typographic Style, "The word 'guillemet' is ... in honor of the sixteenth-century typecutter Guillaume [William] le Bé, who may have invented them." (cite taken from web)
August 01, 2003, 21:31
Morganquote:
Like many people from the US, I believe, they'll deform a sentence into a total mess just to avoid saying "He died," preferring, as they do to say "passed over".
Bear, we say "passed away" here, never "passed over". "Passed over" is what happens when someone in your office will be promoted and you are the one who was "passed over" for the position while the busty blonde airhead gets the job!

August 01, 2003, 22:46
wordcrafterTwo for one today:
grammalogue - a word shown as a sign, such as & for "and"
tilde - the
~ sign
August 02, 2003, 19:42
wordcrafter lemniscate - the
∞ or "infinity" symbol
[Latin
lemniscatus adorned with ribbons, from
lemniscus a ribbon hanging down]
Almost all usages of the word are for its alternate meaning: a particular mathematical curve, which happens to have that shape.