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August 08, 2006, 19:38
shufitz
Wordspotting: commercant
Spotted a word that isn't in any of the one-look dictionaries or in OED. Apparently it's from French. Can anyone help?
August 08, 2006, 20:53
jerry thomas
By entering commercant into Google, I got some four million ghits, the first of which is in French, with a link that says Translate this page.

My French/English dictionary says if it's a noun it means "merchant, businessman, shopkeeper." As an adjective it's "commercial, mercantile," or "trading."
August 09, 2006, 06:12
Seanahan
Perhaps also synonomous with industrialist or entrepreneur?
August 09, 2006, 10:28
pearce
quote:
Originally posted by Seanahan:
Perhaps also synonomous with industrialist or entrepreneur?


With so many adequate English words available I wonder why the distinguished journalist tries to introduce a fancy, French word.

Fowler (Kings English) commented:
"what a writer effects by using these ornaments is to make us imagine him telling us he is a wise fellow and one that hath everything handsome about him, including a gentlemanly acquaintance with the French language. Some illustrations follow"
August 09, 2006, 11:01
jerry thomas
The Conquest in 1066 brought about ten thousand French words into the English language, Shu.

Brush up on them in preparation for your trip to France and you should do okay linguistically.

BTW, another example of mixing languages occurs when airline flight attendants make their pre-landing announcements on airplanes about to land in Hawaii, often ending those announcements with "Mahalo," which is Hawaiian for "Thank you."

To my way of thinking they'd show more sophistication by using one language or the other -- not both.
August 09, 2006, 16:46
Seanahan
quote:
The Conquest in 1066 brought about ten thousand French words into the English language, Shu.


Yes, but not commercant, which is apparently a modern borrowing. Just because we have some French words doesn't mean we have to arbitrarily stick in new ones, especially when there are numerous English words to do the job.
August 10, 2006, 00:13
Richard English
quote:
Just because we have some French words doesn't mean we have to arbitrarily stick in new ones, especially when there are numerous English words to do the job.

Ah, but that is the great strength of our mongrel language. English has no problem with borrowing other languages' words and trying them out to see if they'll fit. That's why English is now the world's most powerful and important language, whereas, say, French, once English's equal, is now steadily becoming less important.

Commercant may, or may not catch on. If it does, then fine; if it doesn't, then also fine - we can use our existing words.


Richard English
August 10, 2006, 02:43
arnie
quote:
entrepreneur
This is another borrowing from French, first seen in modern times in 1828. However, it first crossed the Channel around 1475, but didn't catch on.


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