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October 07, 2004, 10:10
Robert Arvanitis
What's the angle?
Ran across an interesting set of "cumber"-related words. I wonder if we must distinguish among them by small angular measures:

Accumbent
Decumbent
Incumbent
Procumbent
Recumbent

Upright but leaning? Just one elbow? Not quite supine? Roman-dining style?


RJA
October 07, 2004, 12:02
jerry thomas
succumbent
October 07, 2004, 15:11
neveu
Succumbent has to go on the list of Words That Sound Dirty But Aren't.
October 07, 2004, 15:17
Robert Arvanitis
Use the imagination, neveu.

Succumbent - Submissive; yielding.

More likely, "dirty if done right."


RJA
October 07, 2004, 17:38
Kalleh
Interesting, Robert! "Decumbent" and "accumbent" seem to mean the same: Lying or reclining. "Decubitus" seems to also mean that, though it also can mean a bedsore (presumably because bedsores develop from lying in bed).

"Incumbent" seems to be slightly different in that it is lying while you rest on something else. "Procumbent" is specifically lying face down. Now "recumbent" seems close to those above, though it seems to have more of a comfort or resting meaning to it, such as lying down really comfortably to read a book.

But, they are very much alike. For example, "accumbent" has the "lying against something" meaning when applied to botany, and its synonyms are described as "decumbent" and "recumbent." So... the differences are slight to almost nothing, I guess.

It makes you wonder why they all exist!
October 11, 2004, 19:26
shufitz
> It makes you wonder why they all exist!

And with a bit of digging, you also have:
cumbent, which seems identical to recumbent;
superincumbent: lying upon and pressing down on; and
ventricumbent: lying face down; prone.
October 11, 2004, 19:36
Robert Arvanitis
Great additions, shufitz!

Of course, "incumbent" reminds me of entrenched representatives in Congress, unlike "superincumbent" which means lying upon and oppressing... No, wait, that IS the same thing.


RJA
October 12, 2004, 18:29
Caterwauller
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Arvanitis:
Use the imagination, neveu.

Succumbent - Submissive; yielding.

More likely, "dirty if done right."


I'm so tempted to comment on this!

but instead I'll comment on . . .

Kalleh pointing out:
""Incumbent" seems to be slightly different in that it is lying while you rest on something else."

I think you're right, Richard . . . lying while in the office sounds about right.

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October 12, 2004, 19:09
shufitz
It's curious that words involving "lying down" sometimes have the root -cumb- (as above; also succumb) and sometimes have the root -cub- (as in incubate and incubus). Does anyone have any idea why?
October 13, 2004, 06:20
jheem
words involving "lying down"

Because the root for the words is one of those that has a nasal infix, as was discussed in a different thread.
October 13, 2004, 07:52
shufitz
jheem: "the root for the words is one of those that has a nasal infix, as was discussed in a different thread." [I assume you mean at aput's post here, and following.]

OK, obviously it went over my head the first time. To ascertain whether I understand it now, let me try to put it into my own words and ask you whether I understand you correctly.Do I have this right? Thanks.
October 13, 2004, 08:11
jheem
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