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April 27, 2011, 08:54
arnie
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My post here reminded me of a blog post I saw a few days ago. Unfortunately I can't remember where it was made now.

The (American) writer pointed out the use of the word "live" when describing watching a TV show at the time of transmission by the network, as opposed to it being recorded and watched some time later when more convenient. Most TV shows are recorded by the makers several days or months in advance of transmission anyway, so they aren't "live" in the usual sense.

Of course, some things, like sporting events, are transmitted as they happen and they are usually also described as "live". The author suggested that any possible confusion be avoided by the use of "live live" to describe the latter.

Has anybody here come across this apparent new use of the word?


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April 27, 2011, 09:58
Guy Barry
Yes I have, and I don't like it very much because of the ambiguity. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be another generally accepted term meaning "at the time of transmission".

There seems to be a third use of "live" in broadcasting, too, meaning "in front of a live audience". Very confusing!
April 27, 2011, 12:33
BobHale
Concurrent?


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April 27, 2011, 13:40
arnie
Yes, I'd forgotten the phrase "recorded live in front of a studio audience". That is, no canned laughter track is added in later.


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April 27, 2011, 15:52
Geoff
In broadcasting context, in my opinion, "live" ONLY means "as it is happening, and directly transmitted." Any other use is a corruption of the word, but then I'm a prescriptivist.


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April 27, 2011, 16:17
<Proofreader>
Often when a program which was broadcat "live" is shown again, there's a preemptive admonition about it being taped.
May 01, 2011, 11:04
<Proofreader>
Thinking further about this, obviously an event broadcast as it happens is "live".
If the same event is re-broadcast, then it must become "live on tape (or film)".
But many broadcasts are delayed for several seconds (to enable material to be censored if necessary) so are these shows then "live" or "live but taped"?
If animated characters are inserted into the live broadcast, does this make it "live in part" since the animation isn't sentient?
May 01, 2011, 16:32
Geoff
Are you assuming that the viewers are sentient?


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
June 01, 2011, 05:56
Graham Nice
Live music is a different usage again - I have many CDs of live music recorded in front of audiences and a few which claim to have studio songs recorded live in one take.

I watch very little live TV nowadays - Sky+ is such a wonderful thing - but we do use the word live for watching something when it is scheduled:
Have you taped Eurovision, darling?
No I watched it live.

Always watching recordings does mean you miss the feeling that the whole nation is coming together at the same time to watch the same thing. Maybe that is why the Royal Wedding was such an unexpected pleasure: it doesn't happen anymore that we all watch the same live event as it happens.
June 07, 2011, 19:53
Kalleh
Graham, it is nice to see you back!

I suppose you are right about watching the same live event as it happens. I will never forget how the U.S. watched OJ Simpson's white Bronco.