February 24, 2003, 08:25
arniePope or Parson?
I saw a reference today in an American book to the rump of a roast turkey as "the pope's nose". In England the usual phrase for this particular part of a bird's anatomy is "the parson's nose". Is the reference to the pope the usual American version, or are there others?
February 24, 2003, 09:24
C J StrolinWhen I was a kid, "the Pope's nose" was the very end slice of a loaf of Italian bread although I was specifically instructed
not to share this interesting little tidbit of information with the Yanetti family across the street.
February 25, 2003, 07:41
KallehSorry, I haven't heard the term at all. However, I will now call it the "rabbi's nose"!
February 25, 2003, 14:19
C J StrolinCould be just another case of mixed communication.
When I was a kid, I heard it was good luck to rub a rabbi's foot. I think I set some sort of record for being thrown out of synagogues...
February 25, 2003, 17:40
Morganquote:
I saw a reference today in an American book to the rump of a roast turkey as "the pope's nose".
I have always heard my father call the
tail of the turkey, "the pope's nose", but to tell you the truth, I never really thought about it before!
February 16, 2007, 14:12
wordnerdI saw the phrase 'parson's nose' today, and that led me here.
Does anyone know where
pope's nose and
parson's nose come from?
February 16, 2007, 15:40
zmježdWell, if a chicken's tail is the pope's nose what does that make the pope's mouth? Just a bit of anti-popish sentiment from 'crosst the pond.
February 19, 2007, 04:29
wordmaticMy father, who grew up on a farm in southwest Ohio, explained to us that some people called that part of the turkey "the Pope's nose," and he and his cousin Emily, who had also lived on the farm, thought that it was funny; but we kids just thought it was plain weird. We were also told it was not something you would say in front of Other People. I'm sure the expression comes from some 19th century wag living in the Midwest. It actually sounds like something out of Twain or Tarkington. Now I'll have to go look, though I realize this conversation is now nearly four years old.
Wordmatic
February 19, 2007, 06:34
arnie Google Answers suggests that it was first of all 'the pope's nose' during the anti-catholic reign of James II, around when it presumably crossed the Atlantic. Since the decline of anti-catholic sentiments in Britain it become a general anti-clergy statement as 'the parson's nose'. Here in Britain it is the standard term for that part of a bird, and doesn't carry any real sting these days.
February 19, 2007, 08:00
CaterwaullerI have never heard the expression. I'm surprised, too, since WM heard it from her Ohio roots. I'll have to ask my folks.