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July 17, 2014, 08:34
<Proofreader>
Really?
The author thinks we should be using these slang words more often. Really?
July 17, 2014, 12:09
Kalleh
Some of them are kinda fun, aren't they? Like bufflehead and whoopensocker. Some are used quite a bit, like y'all (in the South) or bubbler or even loo. I've not heard of pank or hella.
July 17, 2014, 21:44
arnie
I like the way the author says we all should start using them. They're slang! Surely the essence of slang is that it's only used by a minority?

[Edited for clarity]

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July 18, 2014, 03:45
Geoff
I lived in the Pacific Northwest for forty years without ever hearing the name of the German lighting products company besmirched as slang. http://www.hella-press.com./se...anguage=e&newdir=eng
July 18, 2014, 12:05
Kalleh
Yes, arnie, you are right. However, I do think the word "slang" is used loosely here. Many are regionalisms and some are used 100% in a region, such as "y'all" in our South. For instance, would you call "loo" slang?

Geoff, I suspect hella is a younger generation phenomenon.
July 18, 2014, 12:19
<Proofreader>
My girl said let's go to the loo.
I am sure we can find things to do.
But a cramped bathroom stall
Is exceedingly small
And inhibits the notion to screw.

But I don't mean to say that I stopped.
Oh, no. First just a feel I copped.
Then despite the great strain
And the physical pain
My girl had her bippity bopped.

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July 22, 2014, 08:42
zmježd
I lived in the Pacific Northwest for forty years without ever hearing [hella]

I heard "hella" (and its school-approved euphemism "hecka") a lot here in the Bay Area. Now only in an "ironic" manner, but then I always read that it was a San Francisco Bay Area regionalism.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
July 22, 2014, 10:02
arnie
quote:
would you call "loo" slang?

Yes.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 22, 2014, 10:08
Kalleh
Oh, I thought loo was acceptable, or commonplace or whatever you call it, in England. I guess the common word then is toilet, right arnie?
July 22, 2014, 11:57
<Proofreader>
I thought loo was a euphemism, not slang.
July 22, 2014, 22:08
arnie
'Loo' is common, as is 'toilet'. 'Lavatory' is also very common. All three are euphemisms.


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July 23, 2014, 18:21
BobHale
Is there any word for this room that is a) not a euphemism and b) not considered impolite.

"Shithouse" comes to mind as a non-eupemism, but it's hardly polite is it?


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 23, 2014, 19:49
Geoff
Wasn't "shit" polite five hundred years ago?
I suppose we could say excretorium. Or the non-peevologists could say "The Truss Estate." Ahhh, no, that's euphamistic too.
July 23, 2014, 19:59
<Proofreader>
Lavatory, or bathroom. I suppose turd bucket is out.
July 23, 2014, 20:19
Kalleh
I don't see how toilet is a euphemism for that porcelein container of water with a flushing mechanism that is used for urination and excretion. Isn't that the legitimate name for it, like a chair is the name for that piece of furniture?
July 23, 2014, 22:15
arnie
One's toilet was originally the act of washing and dressing. Therefore it's an euphemism when applied to elimination.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
July 24, 2014, 04:20
Geoff
I think "faire la toilette" is still in common use in French. One can purchase
toiletries in stores, so unless you mistake that porcelain pot as a wash basin, as happened in this French comedy, https://www.google.com/webhp?s...58vhhoC4AHgszXX4BAAA it's a euphamism.
July 24, 2014, 06:12
zmježd
Speaking of the French: lavabo is '(bathroom) sink'; it's from Latin meaning 'I shall wash'.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
July 24, 2014, 07:31
BobHale
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
Lavatory, or bathroom. I suppose turd bucket is out.


Both euphemisms. You don't wash or bathe there.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
July 24, 2014, 08:52
<Proofreader>
quote:
You don't wash or bathe there.

Perhaps that says more about you than you think.
July 24, 2014, 17:59
Geoff
quote:
Originally posted by zmježd:
Speaking of the French: lavabo is '(bathroom) sink'; it's from Latin meaning 'I shall wash'.
Which reminds me of the famous Roman mouthwash, Lavoris.
July 25, 2014, 07:34
Stanley
Maybe "toilet" is an example of a word that was a euphemism, but has now been used so much it's come to mean the actual thing and is now itself euphemized with "loo" and so on.

Interesting, if so! Makes you wonder which other words might go that way in, say, 100 years' time. Also, what criteria would be used to decide which were examples of this? Maybe when a euphemism is itself euphemized, we could consider it no longer a euphemism?


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July 25, 2014, 10:48
Kalleh
Stanley, you probably meant that as a joke, but I completely think you are right. I don't see "toilet" in the same light that I do the euphemisms, "passed away" or "passed on." [Frankly I don't like "passed away," but I do use it now and then.]

However, the whole "toilet" thing seems like past it's euphemism time. When was the last time we used the word as an act of dressing or washing (though we do have "toiletries")? I'd see using the "washroom" or "bathroom" or "ladies room" as euphemisms, but not "toilet."
July 25, 2014, 11:46
Stanley
No no, quite serious! It seems reasonable to think that a euphemism could get used for so long it's no longer a euphemism, and "toilet" feels the same for me as it does for you, even though arnie has a point about its origin. Only thing is I can't think of any other examples...


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If your rhubarb is forwards, bend it backwards.
July 25, 2014, 21:55
goofy
disease
July 26, 2014, 10:11
Kalleh
Expand, goofy?
July 26, 2014, 20:22
goofy
quote:
Originally posted by Stanley:
It seems reasonable to think that a euphemism could get used for so long it's no longer a euphemism


The first meaning of "disease" in the OED is "absense of ease". Later it meant "illness". It seems to me that usage was a euphemism. It's not a euphemism any more though.

"stupid" first meant "Having one's faculties deadened or dulled". The usage "Wanting in or slow of mental perception" was maybe a euphemism.
July 28, 2014, 20:47
Kalleh
The disease meaning makes perfect sense. I think euphemisms do become obsolete.
August 08, 2014, 17:25
Caterwauller
I like y'all and find that I use it often. I attribute this relaxation of my vocabulary to my long stint of working in "da hood", which was hella good time. I've heard Ohio kids use hella, too, and I think it's being used in Rap music.


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