January 13, 2005, 07:17
wordnerdAnother apostrophe question
In the 6-letters thread it felt awkward to post this:
ESKMOS: Each silk-kimonod maid oscillated sensuously.
'Silk-kimonod' certainly
seems odd, but what's the alternative?
kimonod? Looks like the last syllable should be pronouned 'nod', not 'node'.
kimonoed? Again, the spelling would mislead on the pronunciation.
kimonode? Pronunciation looks right, but there's no logic for the final e.
kimono'd? Well, at least that would make the meaning and pronunciation clear. But by what rule would the apostrophe fit in?
January 13, 2005, 08:54
KallehI'd take "b," too. I think the apostrophe would just indicate that it was used instead of a letter. For example, in some limericks where I have only wanted 2 syllables, I have written, "Lim'rick."
I'm no apostrophe expert, though.
January 13, 2005, 09:24
aput kimonoed does match the pronunciation, by analogy with
hoed, toed, goes, potatoes, but that generally only looks right with native words. (Recognizably foreign endings like
-ado, -illo, -ino all take
-os rather than
-oes.)
So the other possibility is
kimono'd, which has a good precedent in
wretched un-idea'd girls. -- Ah, it was Johnson who said that, so we don't actually have his authority for the written form. But I think this is the most weighty precedent.
January 13, 2005, 10:17
arnieI'd use
kimonoed.
If I were worried, I'd recast the sentence to something like
girls in silk kimonos, although obviously that couldn't be done in the
Six letters... thread.
January 21, 2005, 01:19
CaterwaullerI think this is why I love you guys (I include both genders in this word)! Once the OED has spoken . . . a reverent silence ensues.
January 21, 2005, 10:54
Richard EnglishIt was nothing to do with the OED. I didn't comments sinces, as I have already suggested, there are no nouns in English that cannot be verbed.
Thus "kimonoed" must be accurate. Of course, whether it is a good word, as opposed simply being an accurate word, is a matter of debate.
January 21, 2005, 11:27
jerry thomasIn my humble opinion, the only truly correct version is
each silk-kimono-clad maid oscillated sensuously.
January 22, 2005, 07:16
Kalleh Once the OED has spoken . . . a reverent silence ensues.Last night as we were talking with CW at dinner, CW said to Shu, "I know why you are friends with me; you just want to be able to access the OED online from my library!"
I thought that pretty funny!