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January 16, 2014, 10:57
<Proofreader>
Really?
What do you think about this man's opinion? (link)
January 16, 2014, 11:27
arnie
Typical.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 16, 2014, 13:30
goofy
Since when was synesis related to anthropomorphism?
January 16, 2014, 20:18
Kalleh
quote:
Following up on media as a plural form, I recently saw one writer pluralize media by adding a final s--"medias"; I was appalled.
He does get his panties in a bunch, doesn't he (I know he'd hate that one!)

One thing I have noticed, though, is that my writing, at least, does fall into a rut. I tend to use the same phrases a lot.
January 16, 2014, 23:01
BobHale
I read mybe 10 lines then I gave up.
Life's too short.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 17, 2014, 01:21
arnie
I got a little further, but gave up well before the end. I suppose listing his pet peeves gives him some catharsis, but there's no need to inflict them on us.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 17, 2014, 20:55
Kalleh
It was the same old,same old...
January 18, 2014, 04:43
Geoff
I can't open it. Lately our satellite internet, built and operated by the same folks that build the guidance systems for the US's infamous drones, has refused to work. Opening that site has likely led to my bombing a kindergarten in Kuwait. Roll Eyes
January 18, 2014, 05:27
BobHale
Your conclusion is probably every bit as valid as the author's.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 18, 2014, 09:34
Geoff
It finally opened. It's from the formerly respectable Huffington Post.

Being a "peevologist" who's trying to reform, I admit that only half of it seemed absurd. I'll admit to feeling annoyed when I hear "media" used as a singular. But the bottom line for me is that people who can't write or speak a coherent sentence often make waaaaay more money than I do, so I guess it really doesn't matter how one speaks.

The first thing I noticed wasn't the article's content, but the writer's name. The first four letters of his family name mean "nothing" in French. Coincidence? Nah.
January 18, 2014, 18:50
BobHale
I stopped after his first bit. His argument is ludicrous even by peever standards.
You can't say "the door opened" because doors are not capable of voluntary action so you must say "someone opened the door".

I'm willing to bet that in his speech he violates this so called rule a thousand times a day.

The door opened, the car drove off the road, the window shattered, the fridge needs to be fixed - it's a completely commonplace and absolutely grammatical usage.

I don't know what other points he makes but I expect they are all as fatuous as this one.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 18, 2014, 19:32
<Proofreader>
quote:
completely commonplace
...
And wildly inaccurate.
January 19, 2014, 01:10
BobHale
Really proof? I can tell you now that my fridge needs to fixed.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 19, 2014, 03:45
Geoff
Why? Is it running about the neighbourhood breeding baby fridges? Smile

With me, communication is impossible, so, as I said -oops - LIKE I said - nothing matters.
January 19, 2014, 14:31
goofy
A quick check of the OED shows "need" with an inhuman subject has been used by such bad writers as Chaucer, Jefferson, Shelley, Shakespeare, Churchill, Scott, Dryden, and Browning.
January 19, 2014, 21:06
BobHale
I hate to be seen keeping such low company.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 19, 2014, 21:20
Kalleh
quote:
I'm willing to bet that in his speech he violates this so called rule a thousand times a day.
Remember EB White from Strunk and White? He's a great writer. Although White is a co-author to that stupid Elements of Style book, when checked by Language Log, he broke all of his own rules - in writing and not in speech. Much of it is ridiculous, I agree.

On the other hand, we all have our pet peeves, right? A colleague of mine, very well educated, routinely says, "He should have went." It kills me!
January 20, 2014, 02:12
BobHale
Sure but we don't all call them mistakes and insist that everyone else should stop making them,


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 20, 2014, 02:23
BobHale
And, goofy, I'd be surprised if the author has any idea what "synesis" is. And as for "metonymy"...


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 21, 2014, 20:13
Kalleh
Nont sure I've heard of "synesis."
January 23, 2014, 07:42
bethree5
one robert reinalda, a peever,
has worked himself into a fever
o'er singular media
and fridges that feed ya
he's certainly one eager beaver

Perhaps someone really should tell 'im
Before he wastes more sheets of vellum:
self-opening doors
are only for bores
And jargony snits antebellum.
January 23, 2014, 21:16
Kalleh
Wow! That is really good, Bethree. I hope you've written a limerick for that pesky city Bob has come up with.
January 24, 2014, 00:32
BobHale
Always like to see the word "antebellum". Big Grin


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
January 25, 2014, 06:02
Geoff
Which bellum? There have been several. Big Grin