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September 15, 2012, 06:12
Talisman
Word Concerning Argumentation!
Hello, I recently learned and forgot a special word: It describes arguing to win rather than to seek the truth. Does anyone know this word? Please help, it's driving me crazy.
September 15, 2012, 09:58
arnie
I can't think of a word like that at the moment, Talisman, but welcome, anyway!


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
September 15, 2012, 09:59
Geoff
Perhaps indoctrination, or brainwashing?

Good to see a new poster - I hope you'll stick around!

Geoff


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
September 15, 2012, 13:53
Talisman
Not indoctrination, not brainwashing. The word specifically describes the action of arguing to win rather than to seek the truth.
September 15, 2012, 14:31
<Proofreader>
Politicking
September 15, 2012, 14:59
Talisman
Nope, try again.
September 15, 2012, 21:23
tinman
Motivated argumentation based on motivated reasoning?

motivated reasoning

Motivated reasoning - Wilipedia

What is Motivated Reasoning? How Does It Work? Dan Kahan Answers

The Science of Why We Deny Science: Motivated Reasoning

A Matter of Motivated ‘Reasoning’

Why do humans reason? Arguments for an argumentative theory

Reason Seen More as Weapon Than Path to Truth

Mercier and Sperber on the origins of reasoning
September 16, 2012, 05:28
Talisman
ARGGHHH!!! NO!!!!! Listen people, if it's the word I'm looking for, which is a single word, not a compound noun, then when you enter it into dictionary.com or look it up, the definition will read more or less: an argument/arguing to be right/to win instead of seeking the truth. Come on, word people. You're better than this.
September 16, 2012, 07:43
Talisman
I REMEMBERED THE WORD! Let's see if anyone here is smart enough to figure it out.
September 16, 2012, 08:46
<Proofreader>
You win.
September 16, 2012, 08:50
Talisman
Well that goes without saying, but thank you for making it explicit for the less perceptive.
September 16, 2012, 17:16
Geoff
Is this a troll?


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
September 17, 2012, 09:30
Tom
quote:
Originally posted by Talisman:
I REMEMBERED THE WORD! Let's see if anyone here is smart enough to figure it out.


"Smart enough to figure it out?" If someone doesn't know your word they are not smart? Or maybe the word can be established from deductive reasoning.

Maybe you can share exactly how you "figured out" your magic word. Perhaps you have an algorithm no one else has never thought of.
September 17, 2012, 12:54
Richard English
quote:
Originally posted by Talisman:
ARGGHHH!!! NO!!!!! Listen people, if it's the word I'm looking for, which is a single word, not a compound noun, then when you enter it into dictionary.com or look it up, the definition will read more or less: an argument/arguing to be right/to win instead of seeking the truth. Come on, word people. You're better than this.

Sounds like a pretty good definition of religious proselytising.


Richard English
September 17, 2012, 16:36
Talisman
And in the end, after the apoplectic cries of children and apodictic passive-aggression of women, the sun set on a scene of ataraxia, nature extending infinitely in all directions, harmony enveloping the perpetual, singular consciousness of land, grass, wind.
September 17, 2012, 20:53
Kalleh
Hmmm, I've been busy at work and have been off WC for a couple of days. Talisman, this is a friendly site, where we enjoy talking about words. If you'd like to join that sort of forum, we'd love to welcome you. If not, we understand. There are lots of the other types out there.
September 18, 2012, 05:26
Talisman
Kalleh, thanks for the passive-aggressive diplomacy/condescension. If you'd like to tell me what problem you have specifically, I welcome it. If not, I understand.
September 18, 2012, 09:47
Geoff
quote:
Originally posted by Talisman:
The word specifically describes the action of arguing to win rather than to seek the truth.
So far it seems that bullying, bloviation, and/or trolling are all appropriate.


It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti
September 18, 2012, 14:46
Talisman
On the internet, a stronger voice is always qualified as that of a bully or troll or arrogance. Sad to say I'm not even trying.
September 18, 2012, 15:03
<Proofreader>
quote:
Sad to say I'm not even trying.

You canbe even less appealing?
September 18, 2012, 15:57
Talisman
Only from your subjective perspective, where appeal is commensurate with ignorance. The best part of all of this is that you're all host to such insecure egos that not a single one of you has asked what the word was, and yet I'm somehow the one acting in discordance with the aims of a vocabulary forum. Unwitting comedians, all of you.
September 18, 2012, 15:59
zmježd
Talisman. Hi, I'm one of the admins here. I am going to lock this thread down now before things go out of control. I suggest you play nice with the others or get lost!


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