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October 23, 2004, 08:03
Cat
Audience v vidience
I have, on occasion, pondered on the fact that we have the word 'audience', whereas 'vidience' (or a mixture of the two) doesn't exist. As everyone who can uses both senses when watching a film, play etc, why don't we have a word that incorporates both? And if that wasn't feasible, I'd love to know why hearing was chosen over vision to describe the collection of people who attend a performance (especially since, at least in modern parlance, we tend to say 'watch a play' rather than 'listen to a play').

I appreciate that a lot of early performance art centred on the spoken word (storytelling etc), but surely visual art forms such as dance are at least as old? I know we have the word 'spectator' but 'audience' is the more popular of the two - and neither really incorporates both senses anyway, as far as I know.

The funny thing is, the people who attend mime performances are still generally referred to as the audience Smile.
October 23, 2004, 08:17
jheem
I think it's because early on the meaning of audience went from those who hear to those who experience. Interesting thing about both audio and video is that they're first person singular present indicatives of their respective verbs: literally, I hear and I see. Videre is cognate with English wit and German wissen.
October 23, 2004, 08:42
Caterwauller
Maybe an audience should really be called "the experiencers"?

Odd how the language evolves.


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October 23, 2004, 08:57
jheem
Yes, and funny how people say they go to see a concert.
October 23, 2004, 09:59
Cat
quote:
Originally posted by jheem:
Yes, and funny how people say they go to _see_ a concert.


It is, isn't it? I hadn't thought of that one! Although, having said that, many manufactured boy or girl bands have to rely heavily on superb visuals in their concerts because the vocal talent is so...well...non-existent Smile.
October 23, 2004, 14:44
Kalleh
But don't people say they go to "hear" a concert usually? It seems that way to me, but I will take note next time.

I know we have the word 'spectator' but 'audience'

I know it isn't meant this way, but when I think of 'spectators,' I think they are attending a sporting event. I would never speak of a 'spectator' at a ballet or play.
October 23, 2004, 20:21
jheem
Well, folks usually say they went to see a play, although they are part of the audience.
October 24, 2004, 02:09
arnie
And an audience watches a television show.


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January 09, 2009, 07:55
Bro
I just had this exact thought five minutes ago as I was considering whether those visiting a photoblog should be considered an audience. I wondered if there was a word vidience, consulted various dictionaries and finally googled it. I ended up in this discussion. Fantastic! Now here's a question. As you read this, are you a member of an audience or a vidience? I wonder what Derrida would think of that?
January 09, 2009, 09:00
jerry thomas
To my Adiologist I sometimes say, "Can you hear me now?"

... And to my Ophthalmologist, "Can you see me now?"

... And the Chiropractor says, "I'm glad to see your back." ...
January 09, 2009, 11:10
arnie
quote:
As you read this, are you a member of an audience or a vidience?

Readership, perhaps? Wink

Welcome Bro! Stick around and perhaps enter into other discussions if the spirit moves you!


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
January 09, 2009, 11:18
jerry thomas
As you wrote in your Photoblog, Bro, "Audience is everything."
January 09, 2009, 11:18
<Proofreader>
I read an article several years ago in which the author pointed out that people can generally be broken into three classes.

When you tell them your problem, one group will say, "I see what you're saying."

Another will say, "I hear what you're saying."

The third will say, "I feel for you in your (dilemma, trouble, etc.)

Each group senses the world in a different way.
January 11, 2009, 08:26
<Asa Lovejoy>
Does nobody merely observe? That seems to be a perfectly good work to cover Cat's original query.
January 12, 2009, 19:39
wordmatic
Members of a TV audience are often called "viewers," and of a radio audience, "listeners," and you often hear people say they have gone to view an art exhibit. They go to see a play, but usually, I think I hear people saying that they "go to a concert," not go to hear or see it.

Really interesting question, though, and now I'll always be noticing how people put these things.

Wordmatic
January 12, 2009, 19:58
<Proofreader>
When I happen an orgy to see
Am I audience or a viewee?
Would they squawk if I talk?
Will they balk if I gawk?
Is it free or must I pay a fee?
January 12, 2009, 21:04
jerry thomas
If this unlikely thing does occur
And you sit there and watch him and her
As you listen and view
They just might not see you
If you're an accomplished voyeur