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August 09, 2003, 17:48
Kalleh
Endemic
I read an article saying that since England has begun to fear the three-in-one vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella, they are seeing more cases of measles (duh!). Now, this article stated that England's researchers worry that measles could become "endemic". Is this the correct use? I have always seen "endemic" used to mean "seen in a particular region". Wouldn't the correct term be "epidemic"?
August 09, 2003, 19:05
jerry thomas
endemic

epidemic
August 10, 2003, 03:32
Richard English
Measles has not been endemic in England for many years because of almost universal vaccination. However, there have been several scare stories in the media (usually unfounded, but since when did that stop a journalist from publishing?) about the combined MMR vaccine and this has led to many parents' deciding not to vaccinate their children.

There is now considerable concern amongst healthcare professionals that measles (along with mumps and rubella) will once again become endemic in England. Since all these diseases can be very dangerous, this is quite a serious concern.

Richard English
August 10, 2003, 18:12
haberdasher
Endemic means it's there all the time.

Epidemic means there is a sudden rapidly-spreading problem, on top of whatever background level there may be.

Deme, demos, whatever, means a population or group.
Endo- and epi- mean within and without/on-top-of.
August 10, 2003, 19:47
Kalleh
quote:
Endemic means it's there all the time.
Okay, I see the difference then, in this instance. The published definitions (Jerry, I did look them up before posting this! Wink) don't seem to differentiate them that way. I always thought endemic meant that it was confined to a region; as the example on dictionary.com says, "endemic to the tropics."
August 13, 2003, 16:31
<Asa Lovejoy>
In a country as generally enlightened as the UK, I'm surprised that parents are allowed to send unvaccinated children to school. In the US, most jurisdictions require proof of vaccination before a child enters school. Our educational system is falling apart, but we still get that much right!
August 13, 2003, 20:55
Kalleh
quote:
Our educational system is falling apart,
(roll eyes) I couldn't get the graemlin to work!

In the U.S. there has also been some concern about autism, and other complications, related to the vaccinations.
August 14, 2003, 01:27
Richard English
This has never been compulsory in the UK, but few parents (mainly those with religious convictions) fail to have it done.

The concern has been over the triple vaccine (MMR) and this is what has caused the problem since many surgeries are unable to offer single vaccines and so may parents are choosing to leave their children unprotected.

I an surprised that vaccination is compulsory in the USA, a country where individual "civil rights and liberties" are so protected.

So far as I am aware, in the UK no medical procedure can be imposed against a patient's (or parent's) wishes unless a court order has been obtained.

Richard English
August 14, 2003, 13:55
shufitz
As to compulsory vaccination, Richard notes, "So far as I am aware, in the UK no medical procedure can be imposed against a patient's (or parent's) wishes unless a court order has been obtained."

Apparently, all states allow a religious exemption to vaccination except Mississippi and West Virginia. I can't tell you how matters practically are handled in those two states. A web report of May 2002 states that the American Medical Association was actively seeking abolishment of religious and philosophical exemptions.