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May 16, 2006, 09:53
dalehileman
roots and origins
It is difficult to find word roots and especially dates of origin. As one blogger asks:

http://www.wordwizard.com/ch_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18979

Any further hints and comments welcome
May 16, 2006, 10:46
arnie
Online, probably best is Online Etymology Dictionary.


Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
May 16, 2006, 10:56
dalehileman
Arnie, good'n, thanks. Know of any like this for slang, etc
May 16, 2006, 12:49
<Asa Lovejoy>
http://www.wordorigins.org/
May 16, 2006, 18:36
zmježd
Eric Partridge's Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English is still in print and quite good.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
May 16, 2006, 20:47
Kalleh
Zmj, does it have etymology?

I love etymology discussions, too, Dale. I just hate those specialty dictionaries that just have a one-word or short definition. How do you know, then, if it's even a word?
May 17, 2006, 06:06
zmježd
Partridge gives citations, dates, and points to other lexicographers who've discussed the words, terms. Not really etymologies per se, but then much slang is made up of words that have normal meanings: e.g., panty wad.

I also can't believe I forgot to mention Charles E. Funk's A Hog on Ice : & Other Curious Expressions, Horsefeathers : & Other Curious Words, Thereby Hangs A Tale : Stories of Curious Word Origins, and Heavens to Betsy! : & Other Curious Sayings. He discusses previous theories and gives his own ideas about origins when he has one. Fun references that no word person should be without.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
May 17, 2006, 12:47
dalehileman
Wouuld anyone happen to know if Cassell's Dictionary of Slang, 2d ed, has been issued yet
May 17, 2006, 12:49
dalehileman
Kalleh, agreed, and furthermore what gripes me is that many of them don't specify date of origin nor left-rightpond

zm: Thanks for those links. I'll add them to my birthday list
May 18, 2006, 16:28
wordnerd
quote:
don't specify ... left-rightpond
There really ought to be a term for this. Podhandishness?
May 19, 2006, 06:36
<Asa Lovejoy>
Ubipondian?