October 12, 2014, 21:39
KallehG&S words
Shu and I saw "The Grand Duke" last night, and it was charming. The program had a veritable dictionary, explaining things to us. Here are a couple of words I was not familiar with:
muckled
falchions
doughty
bumpers (and I don't mean on cars or similar uses)
banns
grig
viragoes
There were tons more, though most could be figured out.
One phrase was miminy-piminy ("over-refined"), which of course reminded us of DDs, which we haven't done in awhile here ("Grand Duke" isn't a DD):
Miminy-Piminy
Gilbert and Sullivan's
H.M.S. Pinafore -
Greatest of hits.
Undemocratically,
Gilbert makes fun of po-
Litical parties and
Classes of Brits.
October 13, 2014, 20:40
KallehThat's what I thought, but it was with an
m in this publication. I wonder if it was a typo.
October 14, 2014, 04:23
arnieEither a typo or a mishearing of the word.
It's in our own
Wordcraft Dictionary!
It's probably an alteration of
namby-pamby; unusually, we know exactly where
namby-pamby comes from. See
AWAD and
Wikipedia.
October 14, 2014, 17:50
tinmanFrom the OED Online (note the 1881 quote):
[QUOTE]
miminy-piminy, adj. and n.
Forms: 18 miminee piminee, 18 mimini-pimini, 18 mimminee-pimminee, 18– miminy-piminy.
Etymology: Alteration of niminy-piminy
adj., perhaps after mim
adj ( Reserved or restrained in manner or behaviour, esp. in a contrived or priggish way; affectedly modest, demure; primly silent, quiet; affectedly moderate or abstemious in diet (rare). Also (occas.) of a person's appearance.) N.E.D. (1906) gives the pronunciation as (mi:miniˌpi·mini) /ˌmɪmɪnɪˈpɪmɪnɪ/.
Obs.
A.
adj.
Ridiculously delicate or affected; finicky, over-refined.
[1786 J. Burgoyne
Heiress iii. ii. 55
Lady Emily... You have only, when before your glass, to keep pronouncing to yourself nimini-primini.
Miss Alscrip. Nimini-pimini-imini, mimini—oh, it's delightfully enfantine.]
1815 M. Pilkington
Celebrity II. 229 Your miminy-piminy fears of hurting the feelings.
1839 C. M. Kirkland
New Home xxvii. 170 A wreath of flowers of gorgeous hues..in a miminee piminee hand, evidently a young lady's.
1863 C. Reade
Hard Cash xxxiii, In a miminy-piminy voice [she] said she was come to make her submission.
1881 W. S. Gilbert
Patience ii. 35 A..miminy piminy,
Je-ne-sais-quoi young man.
B. n.
Finicky or affected writing; verbosity, prolixity.
1818 W. Hazlitt
Lect. Eng. Poets viii. 293 All the tantalizing, teasing, tripping, lisping mimminee-pimminee of the highest brilliancy and fashion of poetical diction.
1825 W. Hazlitt
Spirit of Age 397 The two lines immediately after..are a mere piece of enigmatical ingenuity and scientific mimminee-pimminee.
October 15, 2014, 20:23
KallehAha! Thanks much, Tinman. Perhaps it's just an alternate spelling.