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Phronesis
October 03, 2003, 06:26
KallehPhronesis
I was reminded today in a lecture about Aristotle's 3 ways of knowing: episteme (cognitive), techne (skills) and
phronesis. The latter word means (in Onelook): "wisdom in determining ends and the means of attaining them", or "prudence". Yet, our speaker said he once asked someone who is fluent in Greek to translate it, and it means "knowing when, and how much, you can break the rules." I just know that my kids know all about that word!
October 03, 2003, 18:45
<Asa Lovejoy>In other words, it means "cunning." Or it means being the head of a US corporation.
October 03, 2003, 19:52
KallehYes, I suppose.
A physician presented it to us to explain what experts (versus novices) in medicine do in order to make diagnose and treat patients. Since no patient presents the same, it can be difficult. According to this speaker, novice physicians get into trouble because they leave out certain information on their patients' historys so that the disease will be the textbook picture. However, the experts can see through that and may push the envelope in making a diagnosis, thus practicing with phronesis.
October 04, 2003, 07:43
<Asa Lovejoy>Here's where we need Museamuse! Where the heck IS she?
October 05, 2003, 20:30
KallehOh, I do miss her, too, Asa!
Shufitz catches her every so often on instant messenger, and I guess she is just really busy.
I love Fuller's 1845
beer...and the Cubs!
October 06, 2003, 08:31
the_bearquote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
I love Fuller's 1845 _beer_...
Isn't it a bit past its sell-by date?
Actually, and here's a new word for you, there's a Spring and Autumn brew one can get in the UK, it's a [coming up] metheglin and it's called Honey Dew. That's rather a nice-sounding name for a beer, until you think that the honeydew (all one word) is a plant that is best known as a carnivore.
Honey Dew beerTo save you looking it up, metheglin is a beer that was originally made many years ago; it contains honey and corn (barley, wheat, whatever was available). It was mainly brewed because it increased the alcohol content and hence beer's keeping qualities before the discovery that hops helped beer to keep without having to increase the alcohol content.
October 06, 2003, 21:20
KallehBear, I wasn't able to pull up your link. BTW, that Fuller's 1845 tagline was just added to my posts because of a bet I made regarding the Cubs in Community. I think it may become a bit confusing to those who don't read the Community posts or to newcomers! I will delete it when baseball season is over.
I love Fuller's 1845
beer...and the Cubs!
October 06, 2003, 21:30
<Asa Lovejoy>I love Fuller's 1845 beer...and the Cubs!
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I don't know about beer, but Piper Cubs, and their predecessors, the Taylor Cubs, were what put general aviation on the map in the USA. Kalleh, I'm surprised and delighted to see that you have an interest in aviation!
October 07, 2003, 00:07
Richard EnglishThe date celebrates the founding of the brewery and not the beer.
Honeydew is a fine beer (as are all Fuller's beers) and another London brewer, Youngs, produce a similar beer.
If you go to
http://www.fullers.co.uk and follow the links you can find out about their beers (and their US distributors)
Youngs beer is called Waggledance and is named after the special movements that honey bees are said to make that show their co-workers where there is a good source of nectar.
Go to
http://www.youngs.co.uk/ to find out more.
I think I'll have a pint of it today!
Richard English
October 07, 2003, 14:00
Kallehquote:
Kalleh, I'm surprised and delighted to see that you have an interest in aviation!
Okay, okay, already. I get the point, guys. I am taking off that
stupid tagline,
despite the Cubs's brilliant defeat of Atlanta.
With my luck on this board, I probably have the apostrophe wrong too!
I love Fuller's 1845
beer...and the Cubs!
October 08, 2003, 03:34
the_bearquote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
I will delete it when baseball season is over.
And when
do they stop playing rounders?
October 10, 2003, 12:45
KallehI looked up "rounders" and found that it is an English ball game, similar to baseball?
October 10, 2003, 13:25
BobHalequote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
I looked up "rounders" and found that it is an English ball game, similar to baseball?
It is, except that almost nobody above the age of about eleven ever plays it.
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- Friedrich Nietzsche
Read all about my travels around the world here.Read even more of my travel writing and poems on my weblog.October 10, 2003, 15:32
WinterBranchquote:
it's a [coming up] metheglin and it's called Honey Dew. That's rather a nice-sounding name for a beer, until you think that the honeydew (all one word) is a plant that is best known as a carnivore.
Honeydew has another meaning, and it sounds far less
palatable than that beer.