Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
Member |
I recently re-read a well-known quote from Rabbi Hillel, which pre-dated the Christian Golden Rule, "What is hateful to you do not do to another. The rest is commentary. Go and learn it." The last statement puzzles me. Just what did he mean by and "Go and learn it?" It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti | ||
|
Member |
I think it means to learn that verse. Here is an interesting take on it. | |||
|
Member |
I think that's an incomplete quote. My understanding is that quote was passed down orally for centuries before it was ever written down. That may account for the slight variations I've seen. The Jewish Encyclopedia explains it this way:
On another site, an article titled "Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Shabbath Folio 31a" tells it this way:
Wikipedia has an article, "The Golden Rule," which says:
The Wikipedia article, Hillel the Elder, says:
The Wikipedia article, The Golden Rule," quoted Leviticus 19:18. The Jewish Virtual Library quotes it slightly different:
| |||
|
Member |
Interesting, Tinman. It sounds like the go and learn might be more general...such as in "go and learn the Torah." | |||
|
Member |
I'm rather intrigued how Shammai happened to have a builder's cubit in his hand. A cubit was a measure of length so I assume that a builder's cubit was what we'd call a yardstick or rule. Was he doing some DIY at the time, or did he carry it for the express purpose of beating off impertinent goyim? I suppose he could have been a builder, but it hardly seems the sort of occupation for a revered (and presumably elderly) scholar. The image of the would-be proselyte standing on one leg while learning the teachings is also distinctly comical. I don't think there's much doubt (for me, anyway) about what Hillel intended. Asked to sum up the teachings of the Talmud he replied about not doing to others what you wouldn't do to yourself. All the rest is elaboration, which you need to go away and learn. It's interesting that he expressed the "Golden Rule" in a negative form - not doing to others what you wouldn't do to yourself - rather than Jesus' version: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
|
<Proofreader> |
It may have been a Rubik's cubit. | ||
Member |
Shammai ran his own school. He probably carried around his (golden) ruler (builder's cubit) to discipline his students when they pestered him with questions. He differed philosophically from Hillel, and he succeeded Hillel as president of the Sanhedrin after the latter died. I agree with Kalleh, that it refers to the Torah (literally, the Law). As with many students, there is a tendency to want a quick education. The heathen in the story wanted Torah for Dummies version of Judaism (the executive overview). So, Hillel chose one verse (Lev 19:18) as the law, and said the rest is commentary, which you should go and read now and learn the rest. Interestingly enough, the Talmud is a commentary on the Mishnah, which is a commentary on the Torah. So, it's commentaries all the way down ... [Removed non-functioning image link.]This message has been edited. Last edited by: zmježd, —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
|
Member |
A tradition picked up by Catholic school nuns, I hear. I asked for exegesis and I got it! Thanks, y'all! Not that I'm any less perplexed. Now let's see - where did I leave my copy of Maimonides? It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti | |||
|