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Who gets to say, Ghetto?"

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November 23, 2015, 10:41
Geoff
Who gets to say, Ghetto?"
http://www.oregonlive.com/port...hinatown_ghetto.html
November 23, 2015, 15:52
Geoff
Also, how is "barrio" defined? And how about "shtetl?" What other enclaves of a particular ethnic nature are there, and who "owns" the terms?
November 23, 2015, 21:09
Kalleh
Shetetl is a Yiddish word for Jewish towns that existed in central and eastern Europe before the Holocaust.
November 24, 2015, 21:24
bethree5
Geoff this is an excellent article. So interesting, the way the word 'ghetto' shifts from negative to positive & back, depending on the social caché of being an ethnic enclave.
November 26, 2015, 02:20
zmježd
shtetl

Yiddish שטעטל (shtel) means literally 'small city'; cf. German Stadt 'city'. Spanish barrio < Arabic barrī 'of an open area' < barr 'open area'; cf. Semitic root brr 'to be(come) clear, pure, white'.

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Ceci n'est pas un seing.
November 26, 2015, 07:14
Geoff
Bethree5, I'm surprised to find the person raising the issue to be of Chinese ancestry! It sure blows the word-related stereotypes!

Many thanks, Z, for the etymology. I hadn't considered an Arabic root for "barrio," yet there are so many of them in Spanish thanks to the Moorish occupation.

I wonder how history would have played out had Ferdinand and Isabella lost.