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June 04, 2017, 16:52
<Proofreader>
Skookumchuck poll
1<BR>There’s a couple living in Skookumchuck<BR>And the husband looks and acts like a duck<BR>Though he quacks all the day<BR>His wife thinks it’s okay<BR>As she pecks the ground, and then makes a cluck<BR><BR>2<BR>I was courted by a fella up near Skookumchuck<BR>He thought chocolates and some flowers might just bring him luck<BR>This guy thought me quite a femme<BR>But I'm into S&M<BR>So I stomped him with my high-heeled pump, the poor dumb fuck!<BR><BR>3<BR>“I once saw an an old kangaroo come, Chuck”<BR>Said a wife to her hubby in Skookumchuck<BR>She went on in annoyance,<BR>“You could use more flamboyance<BR>It had rather more bounce than when you come, Chuck”<BR><BR>4<BR>I once met a fella in Skookumchuck,<BR>He was handsome and strong, and a true young buck.<BR>While plenty of zen,<BR>He wasn't a ten:<BR>He'd make me so mad I'd yell, "You dumb schumuck!"<BR><BR>5<BR>I got stuck in the muck in Skookumchuck<BR>While driving around in my pickup truck<BR>I almost cried<BR>When the engine died<BR>For I was out of gas and out of luck<BR><BR>6<BR>A Haida living in Skookumchuck<BR>Said, “Salish woman will bringmeluck”<BR>He saw one out clamming<BR>He thought it not damning<BR>To offer his big, slimy geoduck<BR>Geoduck pronounced “gooey duck”<BR><BR>7<BR>It wasn't Greece, but Skookumchuck<BR>That sprite fellow no goo’ bum Puck<BR>He, with potions, does wrong<BR>So, the queen starts to long<BR>For ass, ---Bottom, to woo ‘un f*ck<BR><BR>8<BR>There was a man from Skookumchuck<BR>Renowned for bravery and pluck<BR>He feared no one<BR>Under the sun<BR>Except his wife, a French Canuck<BR><BR>9<BR>When watching the tennis in Skookumchuck<BR>The women make me wanna puke 'n' chuck.<BR>Their play still appeals -<BR>It's those horrible squeals<BR>That make me and even John Newcombe chuck.<BR><BR>10<BR>Had a blowout-- badly-timed--in my pick-up truck<BR>I went off 95 up near Skookumchuck<BR>I was nearly washed away<BR>In the rapid Kootenay--<BR>Saved by rafters-- totaled truck-- what a clusterfuck!<BR><BR>(May be sung to the tune of "While Strolling Through the Park One Day")<BR><BR>11<BR>I said to the children, "Well do come chuck<BR>Some wood on the bonfire", in Skookumchuk<BR>They responded with glee<BR>But for Charlie, and he<BR>Just sulked when we said, "Why don’t you come, Chuck"?<BR><BR>12<BR>He was lost and searching for Skookumchuck<BR>Thought he’d ask some dudes in a pickup truck<BR>“At the fork in the road,<BR>Which way should I go?”<BR>Looking mean, one replied, “I don’t give a f*ck!”<BR><BR>13<BR>I went to a bar in Skookumchuck<BR>Started a fight with a man named Buck<BR>Got knocked to the floor<BR>And kicked out the door<BR>And landed in the filth and the muck<BR><BR>14<BR>Whichever way you wanna spruik 'em Chuck,<BR>I tell ya these people from Skookumchuck<BR>Hate strangers and so<BR>If you really must go,<BR>Whatever you do, do not spook 'em, Chuck.<BR><BR>15<BR>I was tryin' to find the little town o' Skookumchuck<BR>At Vancouver, headed north through all the mire and muck<BR>At the rapids near the narrows<BR>Told to go east with the sparrows<BR>So I drove 600 miles from West to East BumfucName your poisin.OneTwoThreeFourFiveSixSevenEightNineTenElevenTwelveThirteenFourteenFifteen
June 04, 2017, 16:53
<Proofreader>
S/B "poison".
June 04, 2017, 17:57
Geoff
Proof, why did you delete the photo of a geoduck in my #6?
June 04, 2017, 18:13
<Proofreader>
It was covfefe.
June 04, 2017, 20:40
bethree5
I'm confused. I just tried to vote for #3-- then tried again-- but the poll did not register my vote.
??!
June 04, 2017, 23:39
BobHale
Have another go. It registered mine OK.
Click vote then choose 3. It should be OK (I know your vote hasn't registered because at the moment 3 has no votes.)


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 05, 2017, 06:26
<Proofreader>
I just copied what was posted into the poll. I accept no responsibility for errors (but will gracously acknowledge praise fotr fine work).
June 05, 2017, 11:20
bethree5
OK, it worked for me today
June 05, 2017, 14:24
sattva
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
I just copied what was posted into the poll. I accept no responsibility for errors (but will gracously acknowledge praise for fine work).


Clapping!
June 05, 2017, 18:25
BobHale
We need more votes - it's a four way tie at the moment.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 05, 2017, 19:53
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
I just copied what was posted into the poll. I accept no responsibility for errors (but will gracously acknowledge praise for fine work).

#6 should read
6
A Haida living in Skookumchuck
Said, “Salish woman will bringmeluck”
He saw one out clamming
He thought it not damning
To offer his big, slimy geoduck

Geoduck is a large clam that has a very long, phallic-looking neck and is pronounced “gooey duck.” Here's a photo.

Your version eliminated the blank line after "To offer his big, slimy geoduck," and before what should have been "Geoduck is a large clam that has a very long, phallic-looking neck and is pronounced 'gooey duck.' Here's a photo," but which you rendered "Geoduck pronounced 'gooey duck.'" The blank line serves a purpose, that is, to separate the descriptive line from the limerick. You got it right in #10. The description and photo also serve a purpose. In fact, they are essential for the understanding of the limerick.



I don't know why a poll is necessary. People manage to vote in the "Bluffing Game" without a poll. The poll results are confusing to some and I would favor eliminating it.
June 05, 2017, 20:04
Kalleh
Lotsa them needed a bit of imagination with the meter. Funny how there is certainly no unanimous choice.

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June 05, 2017, 22:51
BobHale
The poll keeps the voting anonymous and avoids any arguments about why someone voted the way they did when MY limerick was clearly so much better.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 05, 2017, 22:53
BobHale
Five way tie now.
I have to admit that very few of these work for me at all and - eliminating my own - I was only left with two that I could consider. All of the others don't, to my ear, have the right metre for a limerick. It would be interesting to hear how the authors pronounce them.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 06, 2017, 05:35
sattva
Six way tie now. This is kind of funny and makes me happy, too. I hope everyone gets a vote!
June 06, 2017, 14:58
bethree5
Hahaha, agree, sattva, this is a funny vote. These limericks remind me of the 17 Republicans in the 2016 primary Eek

As to metre issues you raise, Bob: might have something to do w/the metre of Skookumchuck Wink Like Stanley, I thought 'I coulda been a contendah!', but too many syllables & too little metre have left me w/nary a vote...
June 06, 2017, 18:10
BobHale
The metre of Skookumchuck isn't really the problem. The only natural way to stress it is SKOO-kum-chuck and that's fine for a limerick because one form of perfect rhyme is to rhyme the last stressed syllable and have any subsequent unstressed syllables identical. And it's acceptable to have two identical unstressed syllables after the rhymed syllable in lines 1.2 and 5.

The problem is that several of the limericks presented are so far from anapestic that to make them work at all you have to deliberately put stress on words like "it" and "a". As I said, apart from my own there are only two that manage it and one of those (actually the one I voted for) is very slightly off.

It is an interesting distribution of votes though.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 06, 2017, 19:18
Kalleh
quote:
I have to admit that very few of these work for me at all and - eliminating my own - I was only left with two that I could consider.

Same here, Bob. I got mine, but not many others.
June 07, 2017, 04:59
Greg S
I had trouble make my own limericks work for me! I will cast a vote soon, maybe i will be able to split the tie, or maybe I will spread the love make and it a 7 way tie and leave it up to Tinman with casting vote.


Regards Greg
June 07, 2017, 06:02
sattva
quote:
Originally posted by Greg S:
...or maybe I will spread the love make and it a 7 way tie and leave it up to Tinman with casting vote.

Smile <3
June 07, 2017, 06:24
Greg S
Sorry Tinman but I made it a 7-way tie. I decided not to look at the results when deciding, so that I just picked the one I liked best. #11 scanned and rhymed best for me, and although most of limericks using oo as the main rhyme all end with chuck, this one made a clear distinction between the use of chuck as a verb in one case and a name in the other, and it cleverly mentioned his name in another form (Charlie) as well. Whilst it wasn't particularly funny or blue, I still liked it the best. But there were many good ones, especially considering how little we had to work with.


Regards Greg
June 07, 2017, 07:19
BobHale
Don't think we have ever had a seven way tie before. Anybody want to make it eight?


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 08, 2017, 13:59
sattva
Eight way tie, now!
June 08, 2017, 20:15
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by BobHale:
The poll keeps the voting anonymous and avoids any arguments about why someone voted the way they did when MY limerick was clearly so much better.

Yes, the poll assures anonymity. I wonder how much this is valued since many voters post which one they voted for and why and what's wrong with the others. Still, it's nice to have. Only the tie-breaker gets no anonymity!

My major objection to the poll is the published results can be confusing to read. Is it possible to separate the choices with a blank line so it would look something like the following?

0 (0%) One

0 (0%) Two

0 (0%) Two

1 (13%) Three

And there should be no reason for arguing over the reasons for voting for a particularly limerick. The person who proposed this game presented only 2 rules , both of which have been "relaxed." And that the voters were to vote for their favorite, using " whatever criteria they choose."
quote:
1. It must be of the classical "person from place" form

2. The place name must be in the A-rhyme position.

When the originator has enough he publishes them without names and everyone gets to vote on which one they like best (by whatever criteria they choose)


Edited to provide link.

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June 08, 2017, 20:37
sattva
Somehow I missed or I had forgotten those two rules, tinman. By the way, do you have to break the tie or can you vote for one that hasn't been picked?
June 09, 2017, 02:58
BobHale
quote:
My major objection to the poll is the published results can be confusing to read. Is it possible to separate the choices with a blank line so it would look something like the following?

Short answer? No. The layout is part of the forum software.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 09, 2017, 05:47
Greg S
Try this Dummy Test Poll.

I have cast the first Vote already and I voted for Number 4 Lets see how obvious it is that that was the one I voted for. I am not yet sure if it helps. Cast a few more votes and we shall see.

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Regards Greg
June 09, 2017, 06:37
<Proofreader>
quote:
1. It must be of the classical "person from place" form

2. The place name must be in the A-rhyme position.

Can you point to where the "rules" were promulgated? I was under the impression that the only rule was that the place name had to be at the end of L1, 2, or 5. There was no restriction on L1 requiring a "traditional" limerick beginning.
June 09, 2017, 18:52
BobHale
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
quote:
1. It must be of the classical "person from place" form

2. The place name must be in the A-rhyme position.

Can you point to where the "rules" were promulgated? I was under the impression that the only rule was that the place name had to be at the end of L1, 2, or 5. There was no restriction on L1 requiring a "traditional" limerick beginning.


It is just that now. And that it must actually be a limerick. I originally (oh so long ago) suggested the game and at the time I did suggest it had to be "person from place" form but that was quickly abandoned.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 10, 2017, 12:24
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by Proofreader:
Can you point to where the "rules" were promulgated?

I'm sorry. I forgot to post the link, but here it is. I've also edited my original post to include the link.

If you notice, I said the rules have been "relaxed." In other words, they're not really followed. I wasn't posting that to say that we should follow those rules. I was posting it to show that the rules are pretty loose, almost to the point of "anything goes." This was not meant to be a criticism, merely an observation. My main point was in the last sentence of that quote: "When the originator has enough he publishes them without names and everyone gets to vote on which one they like best (by whatever criteria they choose)." (Emphasis mine)

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June 10, 2017, 12:41
tinman
quote:
Originally posted by sattva:
Somehow I missed or I had forgotten those two rules, tinman. By the way, do you have to break the tie or can you vote for one that hasn't been picked?

The proposed rules were never really followed, Sattva, and are not really important. The important thing is to enjoy the game and avoid bickering or arguing. One of the reasons this game was established is because of the dissatisfaction with the OEDILF (Omnificent English Dictionary in Limerick Form, originally Oxford English Dictionary in Limerick Form, but changed for legal reasons). I can't say much about it since I was not part of it.

Yes, I have to break the tie, unless some else breaks it for me. I'll do so tomorrow.
June 10, 2017, 17:34
Greg S
quote:
Try this Dummy Test Poll.

I have cast the first Vote already and I voted for Number 4 Lets see how obvious it is that that was the one I voted for. I am not yet sure if it helps. Cast a few more votes and we shall see.


Bob's had a look and said he thinks it makes it worse, maybe it does maybe it doesn't, how the hell could we possible tell? Nobody but me has voted in it??? And it is only after a few votes are there that we can tell. There are not limericks there, it's just as it says a Dummy Test Poll, where you pick your favourite number between 1 - 10, not too taxing, just to see if it helps. Maybe it won't but can't tell yet.


Regards Greg
June 10, 2017, 18:52
Kalleh
Mine is one of very few not chosen. Oh well. I have known for awhile I've not been on the same limerick wavelength as many of you. I still like writing them! Smile
June 11, 2017, 10:02
bethree5
quote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
Mine is one of very few not chosen. Oh well. I have known for awhile I've not been on the same limerick wavelength as many of you. I still like writing them! Smile
Kalleh, I got the booby prize this time. Of the 6 limericks unvoted-for, three were mine!
June 11, 2017, 10:14
sattva
quote:
Originally posted by bethree5:
quote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
Mine is one of very few not chosen. Oh well. I have known for awhile I've not been on the same limerick wavelength as many of you. I still like writing them! Smile
Kalleh, I got the booby prize this time. Of the 6 limericks unvoted-for, three were mine!


How strange! I have voted for both of you in other limerick games.
June 11, 2017, 17:38
tinman
I was hoping someone would do it for me, but I have to break the tie. My vote goes to #6, Geoff and his big geoduck. So Geoff gets to pick the next place-name if he so desires. If he doesn't feel like doing it, he can pass it on to someone else.

Here's the rundown:
1 Sattva
2 bethree5
3 BobHale - 1 vote
4 Kalleh
5 Tinman
6 Geoff - the winner with 2 votes, including mine
7 Sattva 1 vote
8 Tinman
9 Greg 1 vote
10 bethree5
11 Bob 1 vote
12 Sattva 1 vote
13 tinman 1 vote
14 Greg S 1 vote
15 bethree5
June 11, 2017, 18:38
BobHale
If I didn't have my English sense of fair play, I'd have voted for one of my own. Then I would have won.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 11, 2017, 19:20
sattva
I have never voted for any of my own limericks. Some might say, "Well, of course you wouldn't because they aren't as good as mine." I know that Geoff didn't vote for his own, because besides tinman, I voted for his. I immediately liked his the best.

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June 11, 2017, 19:27
Kalleh
We used to have a rule that you couldn't vote for your own, but, if I recall, it was overturned as people thought you should be able to vote for themselves. I have never voted for my own, and most of the time I wouldn't anyway.
June 11, 2017, 20:51
BobHale
I would be very surprised if anyone has ever voted for their own.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
June 12, 2017, 10:59
Kalleh
Yes, me too.
June 12, 2017, 17:47
Geoff
I gave #7 its vote because I was tickled to see A Midsummer Night's Dream used as its basis. It was awkward, to be sure, but clever, I thought.