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July 05, 2003, 18:34
MorganWater, water everywhere
I went to visit my grandmother last weekend in Port Colborne, Ontario. I mention the city, because I believe it to be quite unique. It is situated on "
Lake Erie" at one end of the "Welland
Canal". There is also an island within the city limits. Off the Canal, there is a second body of water that has always been referred to as "The
Weir". I always thought it referred to the waterway as a second canal off the first, which formed the island, yet in looking up the definition of
weir, I find it means a damn!
So my post here has two questions:
1) How many other water words can we come up with?
2) Can someone help me understand weir?
July 05, 2003, 18:50
KallehMorgan, I haven't heard of "Weir", but everything I consulted seemed to indicate it is a dam.
Other words, though I am sure there are hundreds:
H2O, agua, ocean, creek, pond, rainwater, flood, bathe, baptize, aqueous, river.
[This message was edited by Kalleh on Sun Jul 6th, 2003 at 6:38.]
July 05, 2003, 19:03
jerry thomasAnother weird word,
diaphragmBy a stretch could be called a
dagm,But one thing is clear:
It's not called a weir,
Nor is "dam" always spelled "damn."
July 06, 2003, 02:08
Richard EnglishA weir is an old English word that means either a dam or a compound created in a stream to trap fish.
I suspect that the name may well stick to a stretch of water long after the dam or trap has disappeared. It is quite commonly used here.
Richard English
July 06, 2003, 06:39
Kallehquote:
Nor is "dam" always spelled "damn"
Of course you're right, Jerry. I edited "damn" to "dam." Sorry!

I just found a water word in the Grandiloquent Dictionary that I had not heard of:
interamnian - Being between rivers
[This message was edited by Kalleh on Sun Jul 6th, 2003 at 7:09.]
July 06, 2003, 09:10
<Asa Lovejoy>interamnian - Being between rivers
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Oh, the Latin rendering of
mesopotamian.More water words: Fluvial, riparian, and lacustrine.
I also had thought of a weir as a net or trap, but that's the third definition in the dictionary closest to hand. It further states that in British parlance, it's a means of controling a stream's flow, as with a levee or embankment.
July 06, 2003, 11:19
<wordnerd>Definitions, Asa? Not all of those are familiar to me.
July 06, 2003, 11:32
Hic et ubiqueConcerning dams, I direct your attention to
a letter and response, summarized here.
quote:
Initial letter, from the government: "It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been ...the following unauthorized activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond." (etc.)
Response: "I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials "debris." I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose."
And continuing from there to ever-increasing levels of hilarity.
You'll enjoy the full texts.
July 06, 2003, 15:31
haberdasherand for additional remarks on the same subject, check out
http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm
July 06, 2003, 21:54
<Asa Lovejoy>Definitions, Asa? Not all of those are familiar to me.
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Oh, drat, you mean I have to go look them up? I just heard 'em on a show about water, so how would I know! Nevertheless, here's my best guess:
Fluvial, from Latin fluvia, river, thus pertaining to rivers.
Riparian: Of or about river banks, from Latin ripari, river bank dwellers. (I really DID have to look up the etymology on this one!)
Lacustrine: Pertaining to lakes, from Latin lacus, lake.
July 07, 2003, 12:41
Kallehquote:
and for additional remarks on the same subject, check out
Oh, Haberdasher, thanks! That is wonderful.
