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Yesterday's on-line Wall Street Journal:

The Pause That Confuses
From the Washington Times:
    Britain's Sky News posted this bulletin about the Nelson Mandela memorial service at 6:36 p.m. London time Tuesday: "Top stories: World leaders at Mandela tribute, Obama-Castro handshake and same-sex marriage date set."

    The prospect of a wedding between the two leaders got the Twitterverse tweeting.

    "This is why the Oxford comma exists!" said Carole Blake, a literary agent in London.
The Oxford comma, also known as a serial comma, refers to the practice of putting a comma between the penultimate item in a list and the conjunction that ties together the list. The Wall Street Journal doesn't use the serial comma, so we would write "X, Y and Z." The Oxford High Street Journal, by contrast, would write "X, Y, and zed."

The Sky News tweet could have used an Oxford comma, but making it a rule creates problems of its own. Years ago when we worked on the Journal's op-ed desk, we received a submission from a writer who argued that the Oxford comma should be universally adopted so as to avoid ambiguities. We wrote back: "My boss, Max Boot, and I find your argument unpersuasive. Do two or three people find it unpersuasive?"

Of course the question would really be a stumper if we'd written the preceding sentence in the first-person plural.
 
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Max Boot? Is that a large German vessel?

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As Shu knows, I think the serial comma is essential. For the second example given? Just change the sentence.

My workplace doesn't allow us to use the serial comma, and I think it's confusing not to use it.
 
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Our style guide at work says not to use the serial comma in normal writing, but if there is danger of confusion we should use it. Rare common sense.


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Yes, that's what our says, too. However, I don't agree because I think that creates more confusion than the other way (use the serial comma unless it doesn't make sense). However, it's the consistency that is important, and that's what we don't have.
 
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Can you use commas if you wear these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_shoe
 
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I eat Cheerios, Corn Flakes, and Wheaties. Do they need a cereal comma?

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Well, the Chinese DO make some good beer, IMHO!
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Getting back to seriousness (ahem!), technically I do think "I eat Cheerios, Corn Flakes, and Wheaties" is the best. With no serial comma, I (a literalist,remember) could think that I mixed together Corn Flakes and Wheaties.

I prefer the serial comma.

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I agree. Situation dictates its use.
 
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