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November 15, 2008, 20:17
Kalleh
non-nurse
I am at a conference, and they were presenting awards for different types of contributions. One was an award to a non-nurse for her contributions to nursing. I thought about that afterward. While the term "non-nurse" is common enough, you never hear about a "non-physician" or a non-teacher or a "non-attorney," etc., do you? I wonder why "non-nurse" is used. Do you non-nurses hear the phrase "non-nurse," or is it just a part of our lingo?
November 16, 2008, 01:33
BobHale
I think it's part of your environment. Around here, in the college, it's common enough to hear non-teacher but not non-nurse and way back when , when I used to be civilian staff for the police the word -non-police was common. I think it just gets applied in any place where one job is commonly associated but there are many others that people don't think about.


"No man but a blockhead ever wrote except for money." Samuel Johnson.
November 16, 2008, 08:16
<Asa Lovejoy>
Non-nurse could be anyone except a nurse. It could be me, or the guy next door. I'd think that something like "peripheral staff" or "adjunct staff" or such would suggest more accurately what they're talking about.
November 16, 2008, 12:43
wordmatic
I've never heard "non-nurse." I think I've heard "non-medical staff," which would include non-nurses, non-doctors, non-physical therapists, etc. In academia, it's faculty and administrative staff. Staff can refer to both teaching and non-teaching staff, but faculty typically don't wish to be classified as "staff." Among those of us who are "just" administrators, I believe there is a feeling that we are a seen as a lower life form, but, ah well!

Is there asense of comparative status in the terms "nurse" and "non-nurse?" Do non-nurses include LPNs or nurse's aids--or do they include hospital administrators?

Wordmatic
November 16, 2008, 14:04
<Proofreader>
quote:
nurse's aids
= bedpan
November 16, 2008, 14:09
<Asa Lovejoy>
Yeah, Proofreader, that's urinalysis of it. Roll Eyes
November 16, 2008, 14:27
Duncan Howell
This stuff is NOT complicated! In our house, I am a non-nurse and my wife is not. Wink
November 16, 2008, 14:56
jerry thomas
Three Rest Room doors .. STAPH, NONSTAPH, and PATIENCE.
November 16, 2008, 18:29
<Proofreader>
A candy-striped girl named Hortense
Said, “My schooling will shortly commence.
I’ll then get my degree
But now you’d best agree
I’m a nurse. I’m for real. No non-sense.”
November 16, 2008, 18:47
<Asa Lovejoy>
quote:
Originally posted by jerry thomas:
Three Rest Room doors .. STAPH, NONSTAPH, and PATIENCE.

And the potty for those who are "calliphallic" is sta-philo-cocc-us?
November 16, 2008, 18:49
jerry thomas
Hortense thought nursing was cool
As she sunbathed alongside the pool
She saw it made sense
To let her career commence
By enrolling in nursery school.
November 17, 2008, 08:19
<Proofreader>
quote:
Yeah, Proofreader, that's urinalysis of it.
Just minding my pees and q's.
November 17, 2008, 08:29
<Proofreader>
A pregnant girl thought, as a rule,
That class work could serve as a tool.
To breast-feed her baby
She has the thought maybe
She'll learn how in a nursing school.
November 17, 2008, 10:30
jerry thomas
Said a nurse from the village of Planus,
"I'm lucky to know just where Spain is.
I will learn physiology
And believe in astrology
When Mercury comes out of Uranus."
November 17, 2008, 11:47
<Proofreader>
A pregnant nurse publicly stated
That she knew how she got impregnated:
“In the closet, supply,
It was there, me oh my,
That my cervix was in-doctor-nated.
November 17, 2008, 21:39
Kalleh
Duncan, long time, no see! Nice to see you back!
quote:
I think it's part of your environment.
I had no idea that others have used that terminology, too. I thought only nurses used it. Once I hear that you've heard other professions use the term, I can see your point.
quote:
Is there asense of comparative status in the terms "nurse" and "non-nurse?" Do non-nurses include LPNs or nurse's aids--or do they include hospital administrators?
Well, Wordmatic, first of all, I don't consider LPNs nurses; to me, they are technical staff. However, not everyone agrees with me on that. When I've heard it used, it includes all registered nurses, whether administrators or not; however, it never includes other health care staff, such as nurse aides.
November 18, 2008, 03:34
Richard English
Yes, welcome back, Duncan.

If I recall correctly you're in the east of Canada, are you not? My visits so far have all bee to the far west, but there's a fair chance that next year I'll be taking the train across from Kamloops to Toronto.


Richard English
November 21, 2008, 17:15
Duncan Howell
quote:
Originally posted by Richard English:
Yes, welcome back, Duncan.

If I recall correctly you're in the east of Canada, are you not? My visits so far have all bee to the far west, but there's a fair chance that next year I'll be taking the train across from Kamloops to Toronto.


Thanks Kalleh and Richard for the "welcome back". My annual eight-month retreat to the great (internet-free) Canadian wilderness has ended once again. I am back in civilization and am now freely available to tell you anything you need to know. Wink
Yes, Richard, I am in the east of Canada. How far east? Well, there's not much to the east of me except a lotta salt water....Oh, yeah...and Europe.
November 22, 2008, 01:35
Richard English
Margaret and I visit Canada every year to see our son and daughter-in-law who live in BC. The past two years we have taken the train back from Seattle and spent a few days in the Mid-West to see Wordcrafter friends.

Next year we are contemplating taking the Canadian train from Kamloops to Toronto and meeting a few Wordcrafters there.

This is likely to be late may very early June.

How far are you from Toronto?


Richard English
November 22, 2008, 04:05
Duncan Howell
quote:
Originally posted by Richard English:
How far are you from Toronto?


Three and a half hours by jet. By Canadian standards, right next door. Margaret Thatcher said that she could never understand why Canadian provinces were so loosely federated until she flew over them and realized the distances involved.
November 22, 2008, 04:28
Caterwauller
In the Library world, we talk about Librarians (who have a Master's degree in the field, either a Master's of Library Science or something similar), and most others who work for libraries, although their job titles vary, would be commonly called Para-professionals or Support Staff.


*******
"Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.
~Dalai Lama
November 22, 2008, 04:32
Caterwauller
The title of boss in the 'brary
can't fit any Tom, Dick or Harry
But those with degrees
will get by with ease
whether He-man or slightly a fairy.


*******
"Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions.
~Dalai Lama
November 22, 2008, 05:41
<Proofreader>
A library worker named Louis
Had library skills sort of screwy
When putting books back
In the library stack:
"Don't we sort 'em by title or Dewey?"
November 22, 2008, 06:08
jerry thomas
The Librarians, being quite shrewd,
Expected to find something lewd.
In the stacks they found lovers
Who had cast off the covers
And were making out in the nude.
November 22, 2008, 07:12
<Proofreader>
There were lovers there trying to screw
Not knowing their cover was blew
Including a pair
Who were found not quite bare
In the section that's labeled "How To".
November 22, 2008, 08:41
<Proofreader>
A librarain, shelving her books,
Was aware of admiring looks
From young men a’reading
While groins they were kneading
Intent on her crannies and nooks.
November 22, 2008, 08:45
jerry thomas
Considering myths and true facts,
And what's going on in the stacks,
They should invite viewers
To observe all those screwers
And sell peanuts and ... crackerjacks.
November 22, 2008, 09:44
<Proofreader>
The library continues to vex
Since the prim and the proper inspects
The stacks where they're learning
To soothe parts a'burning
From reading the book, "Joy of Sex."
November 22, 2008, 09:55
<Proofreader>
We've started with "non-nurses" there;
And now screwing in libraries here.
And the topics so far
Have not felt the jar
Of Richard's loud clamor for "Beer!"
November 23, 2008, 08:05
Richard English
quote:
Three and a half hours by jet. By Canadian standards, right next door.

But still a significant distance, even to meet some fellow Wordcrafters.


Richard English
November 23, 2008, 10:58
Duncan Howell
quote:
Originally posted by Richard English:
But still a significant distance, even to meet some fellow Wordcrafters.


Sad to say, I have yet to meet any fellow Wordcrafters. Just missed you in London a couple of years ago. Consoled myself with a Boddington's. Not bad. Smile
November 23, 2008, 11:17
Richard English
quote:
Consoled myself with a Boddington's. Not bad.

Not bad, I agree. But a shadow of its former self when it was a private brewery based in Manchester. There are many better beers.


Richard English
November 23, 2008, 12:35
<Proofreader>
We've started with "non-nurses" there;
And now screwing in libraries here.
And the topics got far
Before came the jar
Of Richard's loud clamor for "Beer!"
December 01, 2008, 19:44
Kalleh
quote:
Sad to say, I have yet to meet any fellow Wordcrafters. Just missed you in London a couple of years ago. Consoled myself with a Boddington's. Not bad.
Would you be able to do Toronto in the spring?
December 02, 2008, 17:29
Duncan Howell
quote:
Originally posted by Kalleh:
Would you be able to do Toronto in the spring?


Like.....when in the Spring?
December 02, 2008, 20:36
Kalleh
See my PM.