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I read this delightful article on Language Log about a menu item, called: Qíshān sàozi huángyú 岐山臊子黄鱼. All I can say, is "Wow, Chinese must be hard!" Bob, I can see why you have trouble with it.

In the article it talks about "dozens of topolects scattered across the length and breadth of China..." I'd not heard of toplects before, though figured out that it must be the dialects of local areas. So, would Chicago's uses of words, such as "water fountain" and not "bubbler" or "athletic shoes" and not "gym shoes," or whatever, be topolects? I don't think so because many others say it that way. Maybe they're midwest topolects? Would, for example, the Southern use of "Bless her heart" be a topolect? We surely don't say that in the midwest.

Can someone give me an example of a toplect in the U.S.?
 
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I think a topolect is a language specific to a certain location. So the English spoken in Chicago is a topolect because it is different from the English spoken in other cities.

Here are some dialect maps: Rick Aschmann Atlas of North American English
 
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Wow. Those are complicated. I surely can see how linguistics is a complex science.

So - is a toplect what I've always thought is a regionalism - that is, a pattern of speech in a specific area?
 
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is a toplect what I've always thought is a regionalism
That's about right. Although some people reckon that the different varieties of Chinese spoken throughout the country are languages in their own right, rather than topolects.

I don't know any Chinese so of course I can't comment.

BTW, as a non-Chinese speaker I must say that Victor Mair's posts on Eastern languages, Chinese and Japanese in particular, are rather more frequent than I'd prefer; I'm never able to follow the fine points of an argument, although some of the 'Chinglish' explanations, like that post, are amusing.

He does seem to be taking over The Log!


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I tend to agree, arnie. Some of it is, as we used to say during our dinner conversations with the kids, "not of interest to everyone."
 
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