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Wikipedia says
American Indian activist Russell Means, disagrees about the origin of the word "Indian." Means says (on his website - click on "Speeches"):
(That speech an also be found here in an easier-to-read format.) and (from another site):
And from the Antiques Roadshow site:
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There is also some confusion about the word Indian, a mistaken belief that it refers somehow to the country, India. When Columbus washed up on the beach in the Caribbean, he was not looking for a country called India. Europeans were calling that country Hindustan in 1492. Look it up on the old maps. Columbus called the tribal people he met "Indio," from the Italian in dio, meaning "in God." Has the sound of a wishful folk etymology. And just why would Columbus name Indians in Italian? (Although Columbus was from Genoa, he spoke and wrote Spanish, because he had lived in Spain for quite a while, had a mostly Iberian crew, and worked for the Spanish crown.) And what exactly does "in god" mean as the name of a people? As for what India was called: it depends on the language. The Greeks called it India, the Persians called it Hindustan (land of the Indus river), the English called it India (at least by 1600 when Elizabeth I granted the charter for the East India Company). —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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Hmmmmm.... Tinman gave us something to chew on, but I do see, at least superficially, the similarity between (H)indus-stan and Ind-ia. Same root, I assume. I'd not thought about what language Columbo (Forget the Latin here!) spoke, but I seem to remember reading that his logs were in Spanish. What do the pre-Anglo Australians call themselves? For that matter, why does everyone but the Germans themselves use a Greek word for that collection of Teutonic tribes? | ||
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Australian aborigines tend to prefer "Aboriginals" (with a capital "A") apparently. There has been a fairly recent trend by some white Australians to label them "indigenous Australians", but they themselves are mostly not keen on that name. There are over 400 distinct Aboriginal languages/dialects that have been identified in Australia, each with its own 'native' word.This message has been edited. Last edited by: arnie, Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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Yes, both are from an Indic source, cf Sanskrit sindhu "river".This message has been edited. Last edited by: goofy, | |||
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The Original People in North America are not called aborigines because they were not first discovered ("come upon" is a more correct term) and named by transported criminals and other lowlifes; This is not correct. The term is a classical one, and was used to refer to the original inhabitants of Latium, the area around Rome. If you check out the OED, you'll see that the Native Americans were referred to as aborigines by some Americans early on. I am not from the UK, but I would appreciate it if you toned down the invective. We've even had some folks from Australia posting here in the past. —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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