Sunflower's mother is with us right now, and last night the word, "company" came up. How is it that we consider visitors to be "company?"
May 19, 2006, 20:59
Kalleh
Good question. From Etymology.com, it seems that the word comes from the French word compaignie, meaning "body of soldiers," from the Latin word companio, meaning "subdivision of an infantry regiment." But then it is related to companion, too, which must be the origin of the "guest" definition? I am not sure.
May 19, 2006, 22:07
zmježd
The original meaning in Latin has to do with somebody you'll break bread with: companio. From com- 'with' and panis 'bread'.
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May 24, 2006, 10:59
Mr Pipes
That's one word I sorely miss these days: company in the sense of visitors, people who might come over just to say howdy. Used to be you could say howdy, and, if not feeling well, you could say simply: "I'm sorry, I'm not good company today," and without being too nosy they would come back another day. Those days are no more.
May 24, 2006, 20:09
<Asa Lovejoy>
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Originally posted by zmjezhd: somebody you'll break bread with: companio. From com- 'with' and panis 'bread'.
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Since one often associated bread with wine, I'm surprised that there's not a word such as "comvineral," or the like.
May 24, 2006, 20:11
<Asa Lovejoy>
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Originally posted by Mr Pipes: That's one word I sorely miss these days: company in the sense of visitors, people who might come over just to say howdy.
It still happens to me on rare occasion, but usually people call ahead first to make sure I'm home.
What part of the world are you in, Mr Pipes? Maybe it's different there.
May 24, 2006, 20:27
Kalleh
Hey, Mr. Pipes, where have you been? We have been missing you! Welcome back.
May 25, 2006, 07:48
zmježd
comvineral
The Greeks had a word συμποσιον (sumposion) 'drinking party' which gave us symposium from the roots together and drinking. The Romans had potatio, perpotatio 'drinking-bout' from their cognate root for drinking. The Romans also had convivium 'social feast, entertainment, banquet' from living together, which gives us convivial. Your guests were convivae. Another, less common, Greek word for common meal or banquet is συνδειπνον (sundeipnon) from δειπνεω (deipneo) 'take the main meal; dine'.
—Ceci n'est pas un seing.
May 25, 2006, 19:49
Kalleh
It has always been interesting to me about how many words there are about drinking. We have a word book with a whole chapter on those.
May 25, 2006, 21:05
<Asa Lovejoy>
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Originally posted by zmjezhd: comvineral
The Greeks had a word συμποσιον (sumposion) 'drinking party' which gave us symposium from the roots together and drinking.
Very good! When one reads Plato, one discovers they knew how to have one helluva good time! Yet where's the English term that maintains the original meaning? Maybe we'll just have to invent "comvineral," huh?