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Tinman has given me a gentle ribbing for using "office" as a verb, when I said, "I office on the 13th floor." The usage sounds fine to my ear, but on checking the dictionary I see that Tinman is right: "office" is not listed as a verb (except in a different, obsolete sense).¹ Is there a name for such a use of a noun as if it were a verb? Perhaps "verbification" or "to verbify"? ------------ ¹However, you can find on-line instances of that verb-usage, as in §1320A of the Oklahoma statutes regard bail bondsmen: "he shall provide the court clerk with proof that he is a resident of said county or that he offices in said county." | ||
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quote: Ummmm....(ducking) Wrong? (really ducking!) | |||
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Second question: What prompts verbifying? In this particular case, unless you verbify you are forced to use either the passive voice ("My office is on … ") or a weak verb ("I have my office on …"). I By verbifying you can speak with an active verb ("I office on …"). Might this be the typical prod that leads to verbifying? Interestingly, if one were locating a home or a retail sales outlet, rather than an office, it would be perfectly permissible name it with a verb ("I sell from …" or "I reside at …"). | |||
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Might you not say that you officiate on the 13th floor? | ||
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Calvin, (of Calvin and Hobbes): "I like to verb words." Hobbes: "What?" Calvin: ""I take nouns and adjectives and use them as verbs. Remember when 'access' was a thing? Now it's something to do. It got verbed. Verbing weirds language". Hobbes: "Maybe we can eventually make language a complete impediment to understanding." http://www.henriettahay.com/language/00jul14.htm http://www.henriettahay.com/language.htm http://swankivy.envy.nu/verbing.html The entries on this last site are facetious. Tinman | |||
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How about "I work on the 13th floor"? | |||
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The verbing of America Is getting out of hand, Yet many nouns are also verbs, Like toast and rake and land. When I first heard hospitalize, I thought it was a crime; Why don't we apartmentalize? We will -- just give us time! If when we change a noun to verb To come up with our `verbing,' Why can't I, when I'm using herbs, Refer to it as herbing? For if I call myself a cook , The verbal form is cooking; And if I give someone a look, It's also known as looking. I give a gift But I'm not gifting. You get my drift, Or am I drifting? I get a bill Because of billing, But taking pills Is never pilling. I place a pin, And I am pinning. Play a violin -- Is it violining? But play a fiddle, And you're fiddling; Or is this getting Much too piddling? Planting some seeds Is always seeding, And pulling weeds Is surely weeding; If drawing blood Is always bleeding, Why does a flood Not lead to fleeding? I'm wined and dined But never beered. I've eyed someone, But never eared! Turn on a light, And I am lighting. Turn on a lamp, And it's not lamping. If I can verbalize A needle, And egging on Can mean to wheedle, And I am doodling With a doodle, When I cook pasta, Can't I noodle? With all these punctuation marks, I'm doing quite a lot of dotting; But if I were to use a dash -- Don't you agree that I am dashing? But comma-ing and period-ing? And yet I can italicize And sometimes must capitalize. I Anglicize -- but Germanicize? Or Swedicize, or Gaelicize? With this I could go on and on, Really ad infinitum; Whether I lick these word problems, I sure cannot beat 'em. Our language is an enigma In how its words are used; And that is why, in verbing nouns, We ought to be excused. Thanks to Jessica Kestner, who found this in St. Paul Pioneer Press | |||
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Thank you for my laugh of the day, Arnie. (Big Kiss) | |||
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I have already made this point elswhere - in English there are no nouns that cannot be verbed! Richard English | |||
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Changing the subject a bit. Annie quotes, With this I could go on and on, / Really ad infinitum; Whether I lick these word problems, / I sure cannot beat 'em. Obviously, arnie, you pronounce the penultimate syllable of "infinitum" as a long e. I pronounce it as a long i. I wondered if this could be another Britspeak-vs-USspeak difference, but then came across a british poem with the long-i pronunciation. quote:Can anyone elucidate the difference? | |||
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Long "i" or long "e" sound? I think this has something to do with The Great Vowel Shift (http://www.furman.edu/~mmenzer/gvs/index.htm). I can't understand it well enough to try to explain it. Perhaps Bob or Richard do. Tinman | |||
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I was talking with a friend of mine today. I said I had to add something to my list of things to do today. She said, "you are always listing!" I wanted to ask her, "to the port or starboard side?" It was another of those strange uses of a noun for a verb. Or am I hearing it wrong? | |||
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quote: Somehow I just knew that Shufitz would redeem himself! Just wondering, Shufitz, how long did it take you to find that example? The Oklahoma statutes??? | |||
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Swift's poem certainly indicates that the word was pronounced "in-fin-eye-tum", but if I were parsing it in school I'd say "in-fin-it-um". The poem I posted comes from your side of the pond, St Paul, so it's not a Brit-USA thing. My guess is "poetic licence". | |||
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This is an old thread to revive! We've talked about verbifying words here, including in this thread. I had not heard moot used as a verb before, have you? The sentence I read was about attorneys "mooting" before each other to practice for court. But then I found some other interesting uses of it, like "Egypt has been mooting a high-speed rail project to link..." or "...confrontation that has stoked fear of a new Middle East war, with Israel mooting last-resort air strikes...." I bet you like those, arnie! | |||
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That's fine by me. Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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I thought Mu Ting was a Chinese guy of little significance. | |||
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The "raise a point" meaning has been a verb for quite a while. 1685 tr. B. Gracián y Morales Courtiers Oracle 253 Politicians now a-days moot nothing else, but that the greatest Wisedom consists in making it appear. | |||
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Oh, that's a nice one to add to the piggy bank-- I gather 'mooting' is what I would call 'floating an idea'? | |||
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I've even heard (mostly during newscasts)that "So--and-so is mooted to be doing such-and-such...' so it's not an unknown usage. | ||
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It's obviously a hot thing if there are so many ways to refer to it: verbing (Calvin & Hobbes), verbifying (this thread), and denominal verbs (the term used by grammarians). Verbing is probably the best one because verb itself is a noun that has been verbed. I, personally, like office as a verb. —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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Ah, yes - the original topic of this thread way back in 2002. [Edited typo]This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, | |||
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I prefer "verbing" myself. It's also more succinct. "Verbifying" seems rather too florid a word for me. Similarly, I prefer "burgle" to "burglarise". Also I like Calvin and Hobbes. Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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That shows your very good taste. Only the best comic strip of all time! But I have never understood how Thomas Hobbes and John Calvin reflect the traits of the strip's characters, other than Calvin's sometimes being fanatical in his attitude. | |||
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