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Thaumaturgy
January 31, 2003, 19:45
<Asa Lovejoy>Thaumaturgy
I just heard this word for the first time on NPR today. Is it used at all anywhere in the world?
Oh, yeah, it means making magic or miracles, from the Greek Thaumus, the father of the Harpies.
January 31, 2003, 21:29
MorganAs a matter of fact, as a precocious teen, I used to read the thesaurus, and had a friend who was a magician. I referred to him as a thaumaturg for years, and he was clueless!

January 31, 2003, 22:07
KallehI've never heard of it, Asa, but I love it! I will definitely add it to my vocabulary.

January 31, 2003, 22:52
<wordnerd> Quinion says, "Of all the words in English that refer to the making of magic, this is perhaps the most resonant. It doesn’t have the negative associations of words such as
sorcery or
necromancy because it referred originally to the production of wonders for positive ends rather than any intent to cause someone harm."
Derivatives are
thaumaturge, thaumaturgist, thaumaturgus, thaumaturgise, and
thaumatrope. J.K. Rowling characters could doubtless use a
thaumometer. 
February 01, 2003, 10:02
<Asa Lovejoy>Rowling characters could doubtless use a thaumometer.
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I
thau that one coming, and
thaut so too.
February 01, 2003, 13:12
Richard EnglishAlthough Thaumaturgy might be considered resonant, my favourite "magic-related" word is "prestigitator"
Richard English
February 01, 2003, 14:31
<Asa Lovejoy>my favourite "magic-related"
word is "prestigitator"
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Didn't a couple of letters magically disappear?

February 02, 2003, 07:57
KallehInterestingly, there are 2 very similar words. "Prestigiator" means a juggler or "prestidigitator"; while "prestidigitator" means the skill of performing magic tricks to amuse an audience....but also "deceitful cleverness". Aha! I will add that word to my vocabulary, too.
[This message was edited by Kalleh on Sun Feb 2nd, 2003 at 8:27.]
February 02, 2003, 08:55
<Asa Lovejoy>Sorry, RE, thanks to Kalleh I stand corrected. Well, actually I'm sitting, but that's a mere technicality.
Considering how miraculous - and frustrating - language is, I'm beginning to wonder if Thaumus might have invented it! It was one thing for Pandora to open the box full of grief and pestilence, and quite another for her to open her mouth!

But then, maybe language was in that box.
February 02, 2003, 17:35
KallehI was so interested in these 2 similar words that I looked them up in OED today. Interestingly, though MW defined "prestigiator" as "prestidigitator", OED did not. They were defined as 2 distinct words. Furthermore, for a word board like this, I loved the following definition for "prestidigitator": Juggler with words.
February 03, 2003, 14:39
museamuseWonder of wonders! It's used here in Greece!
February 03, 2003, 16:45
<Asa Lovejoy>Wonder of wonders! It's used here in Greece!
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Ah, Muse, you're back! I'm most happy for this miracle!

February 03, 2003, 18:20
MorganI see three similar words here: Richards entry of
prestigitator and Kalleh's two entries of
Prestigiator and
prestidigitator. Richard, was your entry a typo? I can't find it listed anywhere, and if not, what does it mean?

February 04, 2003, 02:37
Richard EnglishNow I re-read it I see it was!
I meant prestidigitator!
Richard English
February 04, 2003, 11:17
<Asa Lovejoy>I meant prestidigitator!
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So, a sufficient number of digits weren't prest to the keyboard?

February 04, 2003, 13:41
KallehFrom etymology.com (love that site!):
Interestingly, "prestidigitator" was coined in 1830, based on the Latin word "praestigiator" or "juggler". But, what was even more interesting was that "praestigiator" evidently came from the word "prestigious", which came into use around 1546. "Prestigious"
was a derogatory word, meaning "practicing illusion or magic; deception".
It dervived from the Latin word "praestigious" meaning "full of tricks". It wasn't until around 1815 that "prestigious" became a complimentary word, meaning "sense of dazzling".
February 05, 2003, 17:44
<Asa Lovejoy>Kalleh, I'm dazzled! I always knew there was something wrong with those who seek prestige.
Asa the humble