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Higgeldy Piggeldy, James Carter, President; Nonconfrontational Man of good will. Humanitarian, Theophilanthropist, Septuagenarian Mentor of Bill.* *Bill Clinton greatly admired President Carter. Would that his admiration had led to moral emulation. | |||
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Very nice, Jo! I hope we aren't upping the ante here such that we must have more than one 6-syllable word. Chris, do you know if there are still competitions for DDs? I would like to enter a few of my favorites (mine, of course!) sometime. If you have read any of the previous posts here, you will have seen that I am a stickler for the meter. Therefore, I had 2 questions about yours, until I realized I was wrong. The first was in that sparkling one about Lord Chatterley; I first read "invalid" as "in-valid," rather than "invalid." Then in my very favorite one of yours about President Harrison, I realize that I pronounce "bronchopneumia" with 5 syllables, but it can be pronounced with 6, as "bronk-o-new-moan-ee-ah." I pronounce the last part as "moan-yah." Thanks, Chris, for your contributions! | |||
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Kalleh asks: Do you know if there are still competitions for DDs? No regular contests that I know of. The New York Magazine Competition folded in 2000 after a 30-year run, during which there were about a half-dozen double dactyl contests. (The last was in 1997.) The Washington Post Style Invitational Humor Contest asked for double dactyls in 1994. I entered that one. The results showed a surprising disregard/ignorance of the rules on the number of syllables and a lot of bad meter. Since 2000, I’ve been a regular Style contestant and have had a few double dactyls printed in contests that didn’t directly call for them. Here are my Style dd’s: (1994) Week 79: Double dactyls about famous people. Third runner-up: Jiggery pokery President Kennedy, Murdered in Dallas by Oswald alone? Incontrovertible Evidence implicates Elvis and O.J., says Oliver Stone. (2001) Week LIX: Rhyming poems based on stories in that day’s paper. Second runner-up: Fannabis, cannabis Columnist Weingarten Interviews folks who would Legalize grass. Gene is reviving his College persona: the Reefer-maniacal “Head of the class.” (Gene Weingarten’s humor column was about an interview with a NORML rep.) (2001) Week LXXV: Use ONLY the letters in a politician’s name to say something about that politician. Winner: JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY Fiddledy diddledy Johnny F. Kennedy Hero at thirty-three, Hat in the ring. Idol, lothario, Egalitarian Rake or a leader? Joker or king? (2001) Week XCI: Poems about Osama bin Laden. Honorable mention: Higgledy piggledy Saudi Arabia Land of Osama bin Laden, a thug. Ultrafanatical Killer of innocents Soon to be spotted and Squashed like a bug. [Boy, was I ever wrong about THAT.] (2002) Week CXIV: Take the first letters of the words of any of six given witticisms in sequence, and use them as the first letters of a brand-new witticism. First runner-up: (Original witticism: “Diplomacy is the art of saying ‘Nice doggie’ till you can find a rock.”) Dinnerus innerus Titus Andronicus Overindulgences. Sweetbreads nouvelle. Dermatocranial Turnovers yesterday. Cannibal fricassees Always repel. (2003) Week CLVII: Late entries to any previous contest. Third runner-up: Viggery pokery Nabokov, Vladimir, Authors “Lolita,” a Best-selling work. Ode to a twelve-year-old Kid who’s obsessing an Overlibidinous Voyeur and jerk. [This poem is also an acrostic, in that the initial letters of each line spell out V. NABOKOV.] | |||
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I am so impressed, Chris....an acrostic, too! The results showed a surprising disregard/ignorance of the rules on the number of syllables and a lot of bad meter. I can't believe that! Double dactyls are so prescriptive that, to me, they are almost easier than verses that are freer, such as limericks. However, a big limiting factor of a DD, to me, is that the focus has to be on a person with a double dactyl meter. How did you get into double dactyls? | |||
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Why did I say the Style Invitational double dactyl contest’s results showed a surprising disregard/ignorance of the rules on the number of syllables and a lot of bad meter? Here are the winner and other runners-up from that contest. Winner: Chippety Choppety Jean-Bertrand Aristide Turned rather brutish but Withstood the shock. Of returning to Haiti so Tontonmacoutish That now they are calling him Reverend Doc. First runner-up: Bibbety Bobbety Marion Barry and John the aforementioned Both came to grief. Emasculation Real or political Isn’t irreparable To their relief. Second runner-up: Higgledy Piggledy Style Invitational Yahdahdah Yahdahdah ThisIsOneWord. Yahdahdah Yahdahdah Yahdahdah Yahdahdah, I know this ain’t winning, But can’t it be third? Fourth runner-up: Higgledy Piggledy Jacqueline Kennedy Wed Ari the Toad as Prince of her dreams. Mythopoetically Hoping for fairy tales, But sometimes a toad can be Just what it seems. Every ONE of these poems violates one or more of the dd rules. How did I got into double dactyls? Someone gave me the first Hollander/Hecht “Jiggery Pokery” in the early 1970s. In 1974 I was a math grad student and wrote an 80-line double dactylic poem about my professors. (Mathematics has a LOT of dactylic words.) I got into word contests in 1977 and had my first dd printed in a 1979 New York Magazine comp: Scottisher-Britisher Neville Lord Chamberlain Exchequer, chancellor. Minister, prime. Myopic diplomat: Czechoslovakia Sold out at Munich for “Peace in our time.” (I used my then boss’s name, Ben Gottlieb, as a pseudonym.) In 1980 I entered a double dactyl contest in Games Magazine, had five printed (including the Wassermann poem), and was truly hooked. More New York Magazine contests followed. NYM was the major league of double-dactylia in those days. Their poems were uniformly great, with near-impeccable scansion, and often contained excellent puns or wordplay. As an example, here’s a first-prize winner from an April 1981 comp. (It’s not mine.) Higgledy piggledy Jesus of Nazareth (Parables, miracles, All of that jazz.) Came to us courtesy Parthenogenesis. Medical annals say No one else has. Alex Vaughn, Old Lyme, Conn. | |||
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I was hoping you'd share some of the winners. Oh...my...God! No understanding at all! Higgledy Piggledy Wordcrafter's Christopher Doyle, not [our] CJ, your Praises we sing. Noncontroversially, People respect all your Talent, and therefore we Crown you our King! Note: I pronounce "Doyle" with 2 syllables; some of you may pronounce it with 1...thus the [our]. I used "respect" rather than "admire" because I pronounce the latter with 3 syllables, though I know others say it with 2. Jo is our Queen, and we have been looking for a King! Fightily Knightily Aron C. Nimzowitsch, Theoretician in Chess...made the news. Infuriatedly, Jumped on the table, be- Rated his rival; yelled, "How can I lose?!" This happened decades ago, but I thought it was funny. His actual statement was, "How can I lose to an idiot?!" | |||
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quote:Ah, there's still hope for me, then. Compare here. Nonetheless, I still say that Chris is the DD King. In fact, perhaps I should compose a DD to that effect. | |||
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Well, hic, the Joseph of Nazareth dd is great! I love the pun, which is of the wish-I’d-thought-of-that variety. Here are a couple more of mine. Jessica was a co-worker’s daughter; Karen’s my wife. They were both first-prize winners. (NYM usually awarded three first prizes and three runners-up per contest.) Eightily weightily Catherine of Aragon Seventh gestation and Sonless again. Fearing more failures in Filiogeniture, Henry enrolls in the Heir Club for Men. Jessica Allen, Gaithersburg, MD 1997 New York Magazine Higgledy-piggledy William the Conqueror Sets out from Normandy Looking for kicks. Crosses the Channel, beats Anglomaniacal Harold at Hastings in 1066. Karen Bracey, Burke, VA 1989 New York Magazine | |||
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Thanks for sharing your Prize Winners, Chris! Here's my latest attempt at a DD. (Last line .. "WX" is their abbreviation for Weather. The form of that line was inspired by your "1066" .. cumulus tumulus vigilant weathermen upward and skyward they're craning their necks heaping up knowledge of meteorology timely reporting of WX | |||
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I am going to answer my own question here. I found this double dactyl contest on the Web if anyone is interested, though preference is give to DDs that relate to speculative fiction. I rather liked the one posted...as would Bob! I am in the process of collecting all our DDs in a word document, as I eventually want to add a link on our Home Page to our Double Dactyl Archives. We have a very nice collection!This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, | |||
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I have been collecting all our double dactyls as I indicated above, and I came across this February 2003 post by arnie, referring to a double dactyl of Chris Doyle's! Chris, you were already famous on this board! | |||
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Of course, going through all those DDs encourages me to write one: Willilly Billilly Clinton, ex-President, Lit'rally wondered what "Is" really means! Nymphomaniacal Tootsies attract him, if Only he knew he was Not in his teens! Now, I know that Bill Clinton is having heart surgery next week, and I surely don't mean to be disrespectful. However, because of his otherwise healthy state (and no myocardial infarction), they expect a full recovery. I wish him well! Oh, and for the record, I voted for him. This was my first acrostic DD! [edited "literally" to "lit'rally," as suggested by Chris Doyle. Thanks, Chris!]This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, | |||
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YOur Clinton DD is first-rate, Kalleh. And only the second acrostic I've ever seen! I suggest you make a very slight modification to the third line so as to keep it explicitly dactylic: Lit'rally wondered what Here are a couple more of mine: Drippity Droppity Madame du Pompadour, Heedless of thunderclouds, Dabbed at her rouge. Louis, who suffered from Pluviaphobia, Hollered, “Allons! Avant Nous le deluge.” Happerlich clapperlich August von Wassermann, Clown of the medical College of Worms. Taught a few courses in Microbiology. Opened his lectures with “Frauen und germs …” | |||
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Chris, Kalleh's DD acrostic is indeed superb. If you scan back over this thread you will also see that I have posted two or maybe three acrostic DDs. They are fun, aren't they. Yours are marvelous, BTW. | |||
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Thanks, guys! Chris, again, yours are superb. Here are a few other acrostic DDs: Haberdasher Nonsense Numbledy Pumblety Otto D Preminger Never permitted his Servants to fly. Even the waterboy Naturopathically Seemed to resent when he Even walked by. Jerry Acrostic Allomorphologist Cryptographologist Reaching for syllables Out of the blue Starting initially Thinking fallaciously Inconsequentially Catching a few Internet Iggledy friggledy Nickie Copernicus Telescope neophyte E-mails this verse Reviewing the heavens Nongeocentrically Earth is in orbit in The universe Tennies on? Tennyson venison Alfred Lord Tennyson Nagged by the Monarch for Notions in verse Yelled "Enoch Arden" with Sincere alacrity Obsequiosity Needing a nurse. Jo OEDILFER Oxily Hoxily Editor Christopher Dove into limericks. It all takes time. Lexicographical Format was chosen. The English of Oxford is Rendered in rhyme. Acrostic Argedly, bargeldy Christopher Brosius Researches perfumes and Other good smells. Stop your experiments! Trychloroethylene Isn't the compound you Crave for your spells. Apologies if I have forgotten anyone. I could have sworn CJ had written one, but I couldn't find it.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, | |||
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Higgledy piggledy Dennis E. Hennessy Setting up house plans for Old Worcester, Mass, Speaks to the public on Urbanizational Questions and topics and Things of that class. | |||
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quote: ...and two points extra for knowing the correct pronunciation of "Worcester." (quibble: the DD scansion would be a little more precise if it read "Worcester, in Mass".) | |||
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Quote: "and two points extra for knowing the correct pronunciation of 'Worcester.'" Recall the familiar but clean limerick,
Who orscested to crow like a rorcester. She orscested to climb Seven trees at a time (But her sirscester orscested to borcester). | |||
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Yes, but there the parodied pronunciation is "-orces-" = oo-as-in-cool, whereas the Massachusetts sound is as in "foot." (Any PJWodehouse devotes here? Remember Bertie Wooster? That's the more usual spelling, viz. Wooster, Ohio.) And, as with many New England names, there is a Worcester, England as well as a Worcester, Mass, so the elisions are less likely to be confusing among the British than here.This message has been edited. Last edited by: haberdasher, | |||
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Now that I think of it, how did the name of Dennis E. Hennessy ever get to Kehena Beach, Hawaii, to catch your eye? ! | |||
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quote: Being obsessively alert for double-dactyl names, I saw "Dennis Hennessy" in some news story. I ran it through Google, then supplied the Essential middle initial and crafted the verse to fit. | |||
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Quote "...(Any PJWodehouse devotes here? Remember Bertie Wooster? That's the more usual spelling, viz. Wooster, Ohio.)..." P G (Plum) Wodehouse was one of the finest writers of English of all time. Unfortunately, because his work was almost exclusively light-hearted, it is often rejected as ephemera by those who haven't bothered to read it. And Wooster is very rarely seen in the UK outside of a Wodehouse novel. Worcester, though, is a common name whose pronunciation is no more difficult than is that of, say, Bicester, Gloucester or Featherstonehaw. Richard English | |||
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Or Cholmond(e)ley. | |||
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Double-dactyls are where you find them... Being obsessively alert for double-dactyl names, I saw "Dennis Hennessy" in some news story. I ran it through Google, then supplied the Essential middle initial and crafted the verse to fit. Excuse me, Your Majesty, for taking of the liberty, but... Being obsessively 'Lert for dub-dactyls I Saw Dennis Hennessy's News-story name Ran it through Google, sup- PliedtheEssentialin- Itial and crafted the Verse for the game... (If this were a contest, I'd be losing - or at any rate, getting the verse to fit.) Inside every block of marble is a lovely statue waiting to be let out.This message has been edited. Last edited by: haberdasher, | |||
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Gratefully fatefully Thanks, Haberdasher, you Sculptor of verses, you Jolly young elf. Your skill is outstandiing, Agglutinatively. Couldn't have written it Better myself. | |||
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I knew Jerry was hooked when I met him and, before introducing me to his friend (I don't recall his name now), Jerry confided to me that his friend's name was a perfect double dactyl name. Of course, Jerry and I were so jealous! Of course, then there was the time when I glanced at the obituary page and let Shu know that someone with a perfect double dactyl name had died. Shu, of course, thinks I am nuts! | |||
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quote: My friend Werner Van Heidendahl says it's ok for me to post his name here ...... so here it is. (Perhaps his ancient paternal ancestors came from the Valley Where The Heather Grows.) | |||
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It just fails to fit a DD, but the name of the author of the Worcester Telegram & Gazette piece cited by Jerry is impressive in its own right: Bronislaus B. Kush. Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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Weathery feathery Makers of featherbeds, Coats, down-filled comforters, All over town: With our apology Workhazardology Includes paralysis From the waste down. (sic sic sic!) | |||
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Higgamous Hoggamous Doctor Hippocrates Studied the ways of the Body primate. Some of his patients were Hypochondriacal But with his oath they got Treatment first rate. | |||
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Topical tropical Windswept peninsula Florida's getting a Big hurricane. Meanwhile the weathermen Characteristically Forecast additional Inches of rain. | |||
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Hmmm, this must be another of those pronunciation differences. I say "Florida" with 2 syllables. Do some of you say it with 3? BTW, Asa mentioned the word "peripatetic, and I thought "peripatetically" would be a great 6-syllable word, somehow using it with Aristotle, but I can't figure out how...yet! | |||
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I'm shocked, Kalleh! If you pronounce Florida with two syllables, then I respectfully suggest that your pronunciation is flawed. How about florid? | |||
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Originally posted by Kalleh: ..."peripatetically" would be a great 6-syllable word, somehow using it with Aristotle, but I can't figure out how...yet! So is "Aristotelian," if that helps any. But I don't recall him wandering very much... | |||
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then I respectfully suggest that your pronunciation is flawed Flawed it is. Damn! I am not perfect, after all. Higgledy Piggledy Clara A. Lovering Married a murderer; Isn't that rare? Serial killer, Holmes, Intimidatedly, Lured all his prey at Chi- Cago's World Fair. I couldn't resist this name in the book I am reading, Larson's "The Devil in the White City." Obviously, Holmes was the devil! | |||
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Obviously it's not a question about your perfection, Kalleh. You are as close to perfect as anyone I know. There are probably millions of people who join you in believing that Florida has two syllables instead of three. I am not one of them, nor is Sheldon Harnick, who wrote and published "The Merry Minuet". "They're rioting in Africa They're starving in Spain There's hurricanes in Florida And Texas needs rain" --Sheldon Harnick ©1958 Mr. Harnick was born and raised in Chicago, and I understand that you came from Wisconsin. Maybe that's what makes the difference. | |||
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Mr. Harnick was born and raised in Chicago, and I understand that you came from Wisconsin. Maybe that's what makes the difference. Sometimes I think it is more a matter of the definition of syllables. I had always thought of myself as saying "world" with 2 syllables, and Bob quite adamantly said that it has 1 syllable. So, I thought I really pronounced it differently from Bob. Yet, when I met him, we said it very similarly. The same goes for "fire." So, perhaps if you heard me say "Florida," I wouldn't be saying it that differently from you. I just hear it as 2 syllables. | |||
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Higgeldy Piggeldy Member of Parliament Gave all his speeches in Very strange form. Abecedarian Parliamentarian. Words of six syllables-- All were his norm. | |||
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Re peripatetic and Aristotelian: Higgledy piggledy Jesus of Nazareth Proffered his followers Candid advice. "Peripatetical Perigrinations on Water are practical Only on ice." Roberta Pamnani, NYC New York Magazine, no date Higgledy piggledy Laurence Olivier England's great thespian, Loves plays complex, Aristotelian Rather than Shavian, Scorning plays present for Oedipus Rex. John R. Nierenberg, Pittsburgh, Pa. New York Magazine, July 1979 | |||
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Those are great, Chris! Also, I like yours Jo. Hmmm, "abecedarian" belongs on OEDILF, too! | |||
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I constructed an abecedarian limerick to define the word. | |||
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Here 'tis... A poem that's abecedarius Begins every line with the various Clever renditions Defining conditions, Enjoyable but rarely hillarious. | |||
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Krochery, Mockery Ronald McDonald House, Home for the parents of Kids that are sick. Corporate policy's, Humanitarian. But, are they ill from the Nuggets of chick? We had been talking about McDonald's in another thread...so I couldn't resist this! | |||
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I had to try one: Appledy Dappledy Jonathan, Mackintosh picking those apples in orchards so sweet Lovely Fall breezes so Environmentalish bake a great pie that's de- Licious to eat! There are few things in that world that can compare with a beautiful Fall day in Ohio. ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | |||
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Oh...tell me that's not your first! It is excellent, and much better than my first 20. I am totally impressed! | |||
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I have to admit I had some gentle editing help from a friend before I was brave enough to post it. ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | |||
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Still, it was quite good! Chatterly Caterly Wordcrafter's Caterwaull, New to our forum, we Welcome you here! Prolific poster you, Incomprehensibly, Might be the winner of Numbers, I fear! [Just kidding! I love all your posts, of course! ] Chokily Blokily Cubs of Chicagoans Blew their post-season hopes, Breaking our hearts! Pardon my English, but, Exasperatedly, I am not happy with Those little farts! Sorry, people, but do they have to do this every year? | |||
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Giggley Wiggley Kalleh Calliope thank you for being so open and kind. All of the crafters here Uncategorically keep me in laughter both in voice and mind. ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | |||
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Well, thank you, Caterwauller! Another good one! The second line might need a bit of tweaking (and in the last line you just have to stress the 'in'), but other than that...good! BTW, in my Cubs one I thought in the phrase "post-season" that it is pronounced 'post season,' but every time I read that DD it doesn't sound right. I think it is pronounced 'post season.' Oh, well. So, now we all know that I am not perfect! This message has been edited. Last edited by: Kalleh, | |||
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We have another thread talking about naughty limericks. Is there a slew of naughty Double Dactyls, too? ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | |||
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