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thirty shirty shorty short sort fort forty fort for fir fit fist Fisty, Kentucky 41743 fifty [This message was edited by jerry thomas on Thu Jun 19th, 2003 at 19:15.] | |||
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I can only do one at a time (and I am lucky if I can do that!) fifty fifth fith Sorry, Tinman!  fit sit sis pis piss siss sissy missy misty sisty sixty Okay, you two champs, I obsessed over this; "sisty" is not really legitimate. Am I missing something? I did note that "sixty" has no absolute rhymes, at least according to rhymezone. There is a "mixity", and not only did I have a hard time getting to that, but then what? There is no "mixty" nor "sixity." Grrrr!  | |||
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short and sweet ! forty forth firth fifth fifty and even fifty fifth firth Edit: sorry for the omission; vide supra forth fort sort sot sit silt silty sixty funny that sixty should be closer to forty than to fifty... [This message was edited by haberdasher on Fri Jun 20th, 2003 at 18:20.] | |||
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Do I begin to see an algorithm that grinds out these changes: work both ends of the chain down to four- or even three-letter words, which have _great_ flexibility, and then join the two threads... | |||
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Yes, I agree about "shirty", Tinman. I have learned more words doing this! Haberdasher, I missed "silty"! If you saw, I did have "sit"; I could have gone to "silt", "silty", and then "sixty"! Grrrrr! | |||
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twenty tenty tent ten ton torn tort sort short shirt shirty thirty (Aside to Kalleh: Yes, and it would have been shorter, too, but much less picturesque!) | |||
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quote: So have I. In trying to get from fifty to sixty, I found these words: firth niffy biffy niff biff riff rit sith iff pronunciation fust If only I could remember them! quote: That gets you around sisty, but what about fith? fifty fifth firth first firs fir fit sit silt silty sixty ================================================ I screwed up. Haberdasher pointed out that I'm missing a step between firth and first. I can't find anything to fit, so it's back to the drawing board. Tinman [This message was edited by tinman on Sun Jun 22nd, 2003 at 22:42.] | |||
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quote: Yes. I suppose the greatest challenge would be to do them with the mimumum number of length-changes. But that's a challenge that I personally cannot meet. | |||
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Thanks, Tinman! Of all our games, I think we have learned the most from this one. | |||
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(to this thread, anyway) To sum up: one on ton to two to toe the thee three thee tree fee foe for four fur fir fire five dive dine sine sin six sir sire sere see seen seven seen see sere sire sir sin sign sigh sight eight sight sigh sign sin sine nine tine tin ten teen seen seven even elven (well, maybe not in dictionary.com but 317,000 hits on Google®  )eleven Leven even elven (as above) elve delve Telve (something to do with Turkey) twelve … twenty tenty tent ten ton torn tort sort short shirt shirty thirty shirty shorty short sort fort forty forth firth fifth fifty fifth firth forth fort sort sot sit silt silty sixty [This message was edited by haberdasher on Wed Jun 25th, 2003 at 11:11.] | |||
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((( Thanks, arnie!)) How about some new fodder for this game. Would it be an amusing challenge to link the Seven Heavenly Virtues (faith, hope, charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, prudence)? ... or the Seven Deadly Sins (Pride, Envy Gluttony,Lust, Anger, Greed, Sloth)? With your permission, I'll start. Sloth slot sot sod bod bud dud dude rude prude Pride On second thought, it might be best to list lust last lest lust be lost. | |||
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anger auger huger huge hug hum ham had head read reed greed BTW had ==> lad ==> lid ==> lit ==> list etc. and also had ==> bad ==> bug ==> hug etc. so we have five of the seven can be changed into each other... "Envy" is going to be tough to morph. So far I can't get beyond envy ==> envoy ==> enjoy [This message was edited by haberdasher on Wed Jun 25th, 2003 at 13:27.] | |||
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faith fath hath hoth hote hope I think this is what we're doing, but I am never sure with this thread. Jerry and haberdasher have a way of confusing me. | |||
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Charity has me stumped, but some translations list love instead of charity among the virtues. hope hove love  | |||
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charity ==> clarity ==> clarify but there I dry up. Is "charty" a word? Analogous to "tenty"? Then we could go just about anywhere ! charity charty chart hart hat ... | |||
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I went crazy trying to get something from "charity". I, too, got "clarity" and "clarify", got all excited, but then could go nowhere. I couldn't find that "charty" is a word. So....how about the months? I will start: June jure July | |||
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You're right, of course, Morgan!  I have tried to avoid the words that are names, though, such as "Jule". I had meant to do it this way:June jure jury July Tinman, you're a genius!  | |||
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March marsh mars mar ma a ai ail aril (crossword-puzzle: "seed coat," four letters) April aril (if they want five letters, try "testa") ail main man May man tan tun tune June (edited to avoid proper name: March ==> Marc ==> mar) [This message was edited by haberdasher on Sat Jul 5th, 2003 at 13:55.] | |||
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If the months are too limiting to transform, how about the days of the week? MON ton tun tuns TUES ... Take it away, gang! WED THURS FRI SAT SUN (One could start a whole new thread on the subject of whether the week starts with Monday or Sunday ! ) | |||
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WED red read tread treed tree true rue hue hur hurs THURS tours fours furs fury fry FRI fry fray tray troy trot tot sot SAT rat rut run SUN [This message was edited by jerry thomas on Tue Jul 15th, 2003 at 10:33.] | |||
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quote: and finally SUN ==>son==> MON | |||
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orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet. (not to include Infra-Red Ridinghood) | |||
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(but it's colorful in the end) YELLOW fellow fallow allow alloy allay allays always aways (see your local golfer for explanation) ways way wad wed wend lend lens lees lues (siphilis; it's pronounced LOO-eez) glues glue BLUE [This message was edited by haberdasher on Tue Jul 15th, 2003 at 15:50.] | |||
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RED rend 'rand (not the McNally, the South African currency) (all right, rend==>rent==>rant==>ran, if you insist) ran rang range ORANGE [This message was edited by haberdasher on Tue Jul 15th, 2003 at 15:35.] | |||
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BLACK ... WHITE | |||
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It's not "wite" I have a problem with as much as "lite." --s/ Ever The Prescriptivist (Motto: "Who ya gonna believe, me or some strange dictionary?") Without it or something equivalent I can't yet do better than black-->back-->balk-->walk-->wale-->whale-->while-->white | |||
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black blank blink brink<--> rink <--> rank <--> ran <--> ray <--> gray <--> grey [whichever you like; take your pick! :-) ] brine brite write white This has the added feature of being all five-letter words. But it's still seven steps. [This message was edited by haberdasher on Thu Jul 31st, 2003 at 15:01.] | |||
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quote: Well, here is a tale to make your cresh fleep. It will give you poose gimples. It's the story of Cinderella and her Sisty Uglers. Read it out loud, and you'll be rolling on the floor in helpless laughter. | |||
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Hab, backtracking a bit, here's a quicker way to do yellow --> blue if you'll allow a mid-word letter to be deleted: yellow bellow below blow blob blub blue | |||
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Well, thank you, Hic! I am moving away from the rainbow here... gold...pink gild gila pila pina pink [This message was edited by Kalleh on Sat Aug 2nd, 2003 at 15:21.] | |||
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quote: "Lite" is a fairly common slang word. I generally prefer "light". Tinman | |||
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quote: Of course it is, but being a dinosaur I am less than enthusiastic about using common slang where a "real" word is needed. But then I object to split infinitives too, so what can you expect... | |||
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(Aren't power outages fun! And in the middle of composing messages, too! Maybe I can reconstruct this one.) Sport Coat to Carnation: white whine wine wink pink How about SLOW to QUICK ? Seven steps or fewer. Nothing esoteric, but maybe a proper noun here and there... Edit: Nope, lost it. Best I can do right now is "Ten steps or fewer." [This message was edited by haberdasher on Mon Aug 4th, 2003 at 14:24.] | |||
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quote: ...and for the original of this, and many others, consult Lemuel Stoopnagle here. Better still, buy it, and then read it aloud to your children. Very carefully. But beware, in my household it became a rite-of-passage ritual. My favorite is "The Mion and the Louse." | |||
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fifty fifth firth forth fort sort sot sit silt silty sixty But if we allow a bit of whimsy (not to be confused with a butt of Malmsey) we can shorten things considerably: fifty fifth fifeth - what a Sixteenth-Century fifer doth fixeth - what a Jack-of-all-trades doth sixeth - as in Blackbeard's warning "He who deep-sixeth my treasure/Soon endureth my displeasure" sixth sixty [This message was edited by haberdasher on Tue Aug 5th, 2003 at 14:57.] | |||
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slow slog log bog bug bun bunk buck Buick (as advertised - a proper noun here and there) quick How about slow to fast with all four-letter words, six steps? | |||
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You did precisely what was wanted: seven words to be sure, but only six steps. Worth a full A every time! How 'bout seven ==> words with only five letterers? (no relation to Ann Landers, who was Eppie Lederer) | |||
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Very good; the sequence I came up with offhand was close but one step longer. Lessee now. If we prefer our weapons to be made into plowshares, and the pen is mightier anyway, how about turning SWORD into WORDS ? Edit. It's trivial if we can add and subtract letters (SWORD-->WORD-->WORDS), but not as straightforward as I was expecting if restricted to five-letter words only. I finally got a fifteen-word ladder, and then managed to shorten it to thirteen words, twelve steps. But that should be susceptible to improvement. [This message was edited by haberdasher on Sat Aug 9th, 2003 at 11:06.] | |||
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sword swore spore spare spate spats spots soots sorts worts words (It's not what I said; I lost my worksheet and had to start over from scratch.) Anyone want to try making a POEM from LINEs, made from WORDs? | |||
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This man is serious; he has a worksheet! I just press reply and begin.... Maybe it's time to use a worksheet! | |||
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