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Happy Independence Day to all Americans! I had thought I would say a few words about the joy we feel having taken our independence from the reign of George, the Tyrant . . . but maybe I don't need to? <snicker> ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | ||
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So, happy belated Second of July to you all. —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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Happy Independence Day! | |||
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Enjoy yourselves today, all USn wordcrafters! Careful with the barbecues and fireworks! ![]() ![]() Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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Bill Poser, over at Language Log, has a fun entry on Strunk & White & the Declaration of Independence. —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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Of course, Strunk and White disliked the passive voice; I have frequently voiced my opinion as to why the passive voice, when used appropriately, is to be highly commended. Richard English | |||
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I think most of us here agree with those over at Language Log that Elements of Style is, at best, nonsense, at worst, dangerous nonsense. Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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Amen! If one actually tried to write according to Strunk & White, one would sound like very BAD 18th century prose. Good 18th century prose never followed its rules either! | |||
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18th century prose How about faux 18th century prose? Barth's The Sot-Weed Factor or Pynchon's Mason & Dixon. Cf. the opening of Smollett's The Adventures of Roderick Random:
With Sterne's The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman:
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Consider, however, that a decent writer knows, whether by training or by intuition, the structure of a language, and ignores the structure and/or rules from a strong position of understanding rather than from weak ignorance thereof. | ||
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I must admit that I always felt guilty for not following Strunk and White more closely. We were required to own and follow it in our writing in High School. ******* "Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. ~Dalai Lama | |||
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I am pleased to say that it was quite unknown in my (English) grammar school. My English master, Mr Walters, eschewed such artificial devices as style guides, preferring to teach us from his own (considerable) knowledge of the English language. It is my belief that he did a fine job. Richard English | |||
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I am embarrassed to say that I used to recommend Strunk and White to some of my college students who couldn't write a complete sentence. On the other hand, that may not have been a bad thing. | |||
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Reviving a grammar thread Rather than start yet another thread about grammar propaganda, I decided to revive one where we discussed the horrors of the passive voice. I thought this entry on Language Log was precious:
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I'm puzzled by the use of the preposition, "to" in your sentence, Kalleh. I don't feel that it's needed. "...where it disappeared" makes the point adequately, IMHO. Am I not thinking right? I know I'm off topic, but it struck me as awkward, so I spouted off. (Gosh, I've never done THAT before!) ![]() It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. -J. Krishnamurti | |||
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That sentence wasn't written by Kalleh, Geoff. It was by your namesake, Professor Geoffrey K Pullum, on of the contributors to Language Log. Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life. | |||
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"...where it disappeared" makes the point adequately, IMHO. Am I not thinking right? It's necessary IMNSFHO. 1. I found the spot where the car disappeared. 2. I found the spot where the car disappeared to. Are not equivalent. One you've found the location where a car disappeared. Perhaps aliens towed it away for being double parked. In the other you found where the aliens stored it to collect the fines imposed. ![]() This leads me to a place in my thinking. Rhetorical figures like oxymoron and tautology are not grammatical solecisms. They are devices to use when necessary that help one make one's point. The sentence (not written by Kalleh but by somebody over on Language Log) flows perfectly and is not ambiguous or clunky. Sure you would have written it different. Maybe I would've, too. —Ceci n'est pas un seing. | |||
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