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AS long as we use it right. Economics seems to be the key to this.
 
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Note that these days, "economics" means how the rich are doing, and "The Market" has nothing to do with selling what you've produced through actual work.
 
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Geoff: my 12th-gr history teacher was a genius, & I learned much from him - we studied mostly the history of American political philosophy. But I remember being stricken by his oft-repeated mantra: that all of it would come to nothing if we could not figure out how to stem the tide of population growth. [The poor guy committed suicide before he was 40.].

Being a very spritual creature, I have this take on it: the Bible tells us us to 'go forth and multiply' because God wants us to come to this place, w/our backs against the wall, where we can no longer protect the planet and feed ourselves unless we learn to work together as a human race.
 
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Interesting, bethree5! I take it you've read Revelation 11:18, then?

Another population expert who committed suicide was the author of "The Tragedy of The Commons." He and his wife did it together. Talk about, "...till death do you part!"
 
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Yikes, Greg! My Biblical reading did not get much beyond Genesis, Proverbs & Psalms , plus a fair amount of the Gospels (esp like John, esp hate Paul). Revelations is so New-Agey & just makes me think of Bergman's "The Seventh Seal" Wink But thanks for educating me. I am not big on Armageddon, but the warning fits the bill.
 
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& Greg, thanks again for schooling me on Garret Hardin & wife. I read a cogent summary here: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB106670128977225300
I see that they were in 80's when they chose to end their lives, which tempers the news somewhat.

I expect that my 12th-gr history teacher was bipolar - only because I later became very familiar w/the behavior typical of the disorder thro friends, relatives, & my [deceased at 23] son. (My son died from physical illness - but survived a couple of suicidal periods). The people I have known (& read about, thro Jamison) w/bipolar often have high intelligence. (My ob/gyn advised me upon ultrasound #2 that my eldest would be unusually intelligent as evidenced by large brain ventricles & large volume gray matter - w/n a decade the former became assoc w/schizophrenia & some bipolar disorder; the latter a blessing because gray matter decreases as disease progresses).

Anecdotally among those I have known personally, the hi intell is "binary," i.e., there is a computer-like ability to instantly project info/ data to its nth conclusion [you also see that in some autistics]... Bipolar episodes are characterized by disordered thoughts causing outsized emotional impact. In a sense, these computer-like projections are disordered thoughts, because there is no consideration given to other, as-yet-not learned/ observed factors that influence the projectory (see the wsj article for countering effects the Hardins did not imagine).
 
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While not a psychiatrist, I suspect your teacher was bipolar, or something, too. It seems to be very controllable, as long as patients stay on their medication.
 
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Hey, Kalleh.
Bipolar I - the original "manic-depression", not counting lesser "on-the-spectrum" variations - is rather common (at least 1 in 70, 'round the world), & such a large chunk of humanity includes wide variation in response to treatment. The worst few yrs is at the beginning - since it starts in adol, there's a struggle to accept the illness & trial various therapies w/perseverance.

My poor guy routinely got the rarest side effects, even to OTC meds. And his version of mania was psychosis - only at 3-yr intervals, & lithium started in-hosp did an excellent job on that. But he could only take it for a few mos. max; there was no good maint drug for him. Once mature he began to get good at noting its onset. I expect he could have learned to manage it in adulthood, esp as he had no inclination toward self-med w/alcohol or drugs (as so many bp do).
 
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I am so sorry for your experience, Bethree. I think mental illness (or whatever we're calling mental health afflictions these days) is the very hardest. People are sympathetic toward cancer or heart disease - but not mental health problems. And don't get me started on addiction diagnoses!
 
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